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  1. Trotsky Brown Belt

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    Do you mean TDKR? That's what he (and I) had mentioned bearing a distinctly right message.

    If so, I agree, although with any of them, it's not so easy to say that the antagonist vessel of the (leftist) message is dispositive on the film's overall purpose: exactly the opposite is true for TDK and you could argue the same for TDKR (that the powerfulness of the villain comes from the coherency of their existence).

    If you're saying you found The Dark Knight to be boring to the point of being unwatchable, then we're going to have to take this to the streets. Because I have literally never heard of anyone other than my parents and my very gay friend who weren't both very entertained and moved by TDK. Just an extraordinarily impressive directorial and acting feat for the genre.
     
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    REally? Isaac Asimov, Arthur C CLarke, Michael Crichton were liberals?

    I could have swore Crichton was more of a conservative...

    I might have to research...
     
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  3. LogicalInsanity Gold Belt

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    how would you guys classify the first Matrix in terms of political ideology?

    there are obvious striking religious undertones...but politically, what do you guys think?
     
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    It's pretty obvious that most films nowadays are left-leaning.
     
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  5. Jack V Savage Funklord of the USA and the Nicest Guy on Sherdog

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    TDK. I remember it being talked about as a defense of W. But it was just too boring for me to even pick up any message. Didn't watch TDKR because TDK was so bad.
     
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  6. Jack V Savage Funklord of the USA and the Nicest Guy on Sherdog

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    Far left. Kropotkin territory.
     
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    This thread is useless unless you actually give specific examples of films.

    You rate Comedy as hard left. Why? Because most comedians vote democrat or because there are an overwhelming number of comedies that excude leftist political ideologies?
     
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    Yep future set sci fi like in planet of the apes, a clockwork orange, Logan's run, escape from New York, blade runner, alien, Brazil, robocop, the running man, they live, demolition man, starship troopers, minority report, v for vendetta, a scanner darkly, all lean towards right or left wing libertarianism (although at the time of creation most were viewed as left).
     
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    List of genres:

    Action / right
    Adventure / right
    Crime / right
    Horror / left
    Fantasy / left
    Sci-Fi / left
    Comedy / left
    Thriller / left
    Western / right
     
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  10. Madmick Stop Spoiling My TV Life (it's the one I like)

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    No. For every action film and cliche like that there is another on the opposite end of the spectrum: dirty, racist cops; corporate suits (or politicians) that always fill the role of the "mastermind" villain setting the people against one another for personal profit; excessively empowered female protagonists (for no other reason than being female); offensive portrayals of natives to the domestic market; the glorification, humanization, normalization, and whitewashing of "criminal" allies (or protagonists), especially those who aren't favored by establishment powers; "might makes right" military malfeasance and its consequences; etc.

    Action films and Horror films aren't at all alike in what makes the latter conservative.

    Vengeance and violence aren't inherently conservative principles, and these are the central principles to the Action genre. The guns are there as a device for entertainment, not political discourse. In a way, they're a MacGuffin.
     
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  11. Madmick Stop Spoiling My TV Life (it's the one I like)

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    No, Horrors are far more conservative, in the sense of a cinematic tradition.
     
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    Maybe a bit off topic but, I used to love horror, serial killers, death and dismay. Now I can hardly watch. It makes me cringe and kinda freaks me out.

    Am I becoming a pussy? Low T? Growing up? All of the above?
     
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    Left leaning for sure. The Matrix is basically unfettered capitalism.
     
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    I'd say low T, and being a pussy. But, you know what they say, two out of three ain't bad.
     
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  15. sniper Sergei Provider

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    Personal attacks, bro?
     
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    I'm just trying to help you deal with your changing role as a man with low T, and vaginitis. I'm trying to be supportive here, dammit!
     
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    They do but you can't just make any ole Western. Tarantino made two and they were hits, its just that the days of pumping out Westerns is gone. Hopefully superhero movies go the same route soon.
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    Robert A. Heinlein was a fascist. He wrote starship troopers and created the scifi concept of "power armor" and space marine, prevalent in Starcraft, Fallout, Doom and Warhammer 40k.
     
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    Tarantino's movies were hits because they were made by him. And he kind of made them parodies. The original Django was amazing, the remake was just alright in my opinion. The Hateful Eight was straight garbage.

    The best Westerns used to be minimalist, nihilistic and packed with masculinity. Maybe that's why they don't make em anymore. Same reason movies like Predator wont be made in this age.

    The Dollars series was probably the best series of movies ever made. Sad that people can't seem to capture the same cinematic brilliance they did back in the 60's, especially since they were pretty cheap movies to make.
     
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    I don't get superhero movies, nobody I know ever read comic books. They're were the stuff of geeks of the lowest kind. Now all of a sudden everybody is a fan of Batman or even some obscure superheroes like Deadpool or that slut with a baseball bat.
     
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