Fighters with the worst UFC luck in hindsight

ixRanGzeNxi said:
Misspelling "here" in that way while also talking about a DEAF fighter...incredible. <Lmaoo>
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He's deaf? I had no
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James Irvin of course...

Worst luck In mma
 
Like Highlander, there can only be one Jason "Mayhem" Miller ↓↓↓

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Went through the early grind of mma got a big boost from the UFC coached against Micheal Bisping in Ultimate Fighter 14 then laid a dumpster fire sh!t show performance of butt scoot fighting. Even after that sh!t show he was given the MTV host job of "Bully Beatdown" And even after that short lived show he got serious movie cameos.

But the boyz bi-polar was just too strong ↑↑↑
 
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Fabricio Werdum after losing to newcomer Junior Dos Santos.
 
Paladin said:
2nd pic was before he popped the 2nd time for T-bol
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Actually it was during his suspension for the hit and run. He started lifting during his time off and got yoked. The first pic is from years ago during his off season.

I'm of the opinion Jones was using but those pics don't prove anything. Unless that guy is saying Jones was clean all his life and then only started using recently during the USADA era. Which makes no sense.
 
DC had to wrestle the greatest collegiate wrestler of our time then had to fight the most talented UFC fighter of all time.

Johnny Hendricks with two very close and controversial decisions in two fights for the belt, and lost a lot of his drive due to it.
 
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Jay Heiron.

> Fights GSP in his first UFC fight ever, gets dominated.
> Fights Goulet in his second fight, is winning comfortably after 2 rounds then gets busted open by a knee and loses via cut.
> Fights Ellenberger, when Ellenberger was a top guy in the division. And loses a decision in a fight where nothing happened and really could ahve gone either way.
> Gets plastered by future champ Woodley in like 10 seconds.

He was def UFC caliber, he has a lot of good wins outside of the UFC. Just had some shitty luck
 
blaseblah said:
Usually there's no big deal with fighters getting cut after a bad run in the UFC. They had a chance to prove themselves and they failed. But there's a few guys who had the worst luck in hindsight. I have two examples in mind.

Marcus Brimage:

He won 3 fights in a row before his luck soured. He ran into a debuting Conor McGregor and got KO'd in the first. After that, he lost a split decision and then won by KO. But next he had to face two more fighters making their debut. An unheralded Cody Garbrandt and Jimmie Rivera. Basically the UFC cut him for losing to two future champions and a top contender.

Jake O'Brien:

A promising heavyweight prospect who was undefeated. He won his first 3 UFC fights, including a win over Heath Herring. Then he ran into a prime Andrei Arlovski, who TKO'd him in the second round. After that he had to face a young 3-0 Cain Velasquez making his debut. Of course he got crushed. He moved to light heavyweight and won his next fight, but then he ran into this 22 year old kid named Jon Jones. Getting submitted by Jones was enough, he lost his job for losing to 3 MMA greats and future UFC hall of famers. To make matters worse, a year later he got a fight in DREAM and had to fight Mousasi. To this day those are his only 4 losses in his entire career. He won a couple more fights in tiny promotions and then retired at the age of 28. If you think about it, that could've been the career of almost anyone. Who knows how good he really was. He's still only 34, he could arguably be top 5 right now if he'd had better matchmaking.

Got any other examples?
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Cool topic, but having watched O'Brien's fights at the time, this isn't nearly as bad as it sounds.

O'Brien was basically a good wrestler who had no other skills. With the exception of his debut fight in the UFC, a TKO over Kristof Midoux, a French scrub with a record of 6-10 who to this day is one of the worst fighters to ever compete in the UFC post-2000, his three other wins were of the classic lay-and-pray variety, including barely beating Christian Wellisch of all people.

It wasn't that he lost to Jones, Mousasi, Velasquez, and Arlovski, it was HOW O'Brien lost. He showed zero ability in those fights minus his wrestling.

Against a Jones who still had very rudimentary striking (Jones had no real striking in his previous fight, his debut UFC victory over Bonnar), O'Brien was utterly helpless, being jabbed to death before shooting in and being guillotined.

Against a Mousasi whose takedown defense was his biggest weakness, especially back then, AND was massively smaller than him, O'Brien shot in immediately...and got guillotined, too. Sorry, but if you're a wrestler and no other skills who can't even avoid being guillotined by smaller, weaker guys, you're really nothing special.

Also, as "impressive" as his losses were, his victories were equally as...unimpressive. I mentioned barely beating Wellisch, which was a split decision, but that was easily his second best win. His best victory was beating an unmotivated Heath Herring who didn't adapt as well to the cage and UFC rules. It's still a decent victory, as Herring would later win a couple more times in the UFC, including against a young(er) Cheick Kongo, but that's O'Brien's sole highlight.
 
Jake O'brien got cut because he was boring AF. He was ragged on about it constantly. I remember. He got some wins, but were all Lay n' Pray and textbook examples of LnP at that.

I think Herring got screwed by running into a raging Brock and got demolished in his UFC debut.
 
GIBLERTBAPTISTA said:
Jay Heiron.

> Fights GSP in his first UFC fight ever, gets dominated.
> Fights Goulet in his second fight, is winning comfortably after 2 rounds then gets busted open by a knee and loses via cut.
> Fights Ellenberger, when Ellenberger was a top guy in the division. And loses a decision in a fight where nothing happened and really could ahve gone either way.
> Gets plastered by future champ Woodley in like 10 seconds.

He was def UFC caliber, he has a lot of good wins outside of the UFC. Just had some shitty luck
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You forgot:

> Got robbed by the judges in the Askren fight. Should be the one L on Ben's record.
 
PolarBearPaulVarelans said:
Cool topic, but having watched O'Brien's fights at the time, this isn't nearly as bad as it sounds.

O'Brien was basically a good wrestler who had no other skills. With the exception of his debut fight in the UFC, a TKO over Kristof Midoux, a French scrub with a record of 6-10 who to this day is one of the worst fighters to ever compete in the UFC post-2000, his three other wins were of the classic lay-and-pray variety, including barely beating Christian Wellisch of all people.

It wasn't that he lost to Jones, Mousasi, Velasquez, and Arlovski, it was HOW O'Brien lost. He showed zero ability in those fights minus his wrestling.

Against a Jones who still had very rudimentary striking (Jones had no real striking in his previous fight, his debut UFC victory over Bonnar), O'Brien was utterly helpless, being jabbed to death before shooting in and being guillotined.

Against a Mousasi whose takedown defense was his biggest weakness, especially back then, AND was massively smaller than him, O'Brien shot in immediately...and got guillotined, too. Sorry, but if you're a wrestler and no other skills who can't even avoid being guillotined by smaller, weaker guys, you're really nothing special.

Also, as "impressive" as his losses were, his victories were equally as...unimpressive. I mentioned barely beating Wellisch, which was a split decision, but that was easily his second best win. His best victory was beating an unmotivated Heath Herring who didn't adapt as well to the cage and UFC rules. It's still a decent victory, as Herring would later win a couple more times in the UFC, including against a young(er) Cheick Kongo, but that's O'Brien's sole highlight.
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Lol you're acting like outstriking Jones is something anyone should have been able to do. Who are all these fighters? And Mousasi had many submission victories before O'Brien, including Mark Hunt who has been in the top 10 for years.

Ask yourself, would Derrick Lewis fare any better against those fighters? He's ranked Number 2 right now.
 
blaseblah said:
Lol you're acting like outstriking Jones is something anyone should have been able to do.
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Did you actually watch ANY of the O'Brien fights you're talking about?

Jones was 21 and had very limited striking then, as he showed next to nothing against Bonnar in the stand-up 5 months earlier.

Losing to Jon Jones, even at that age, is no shame. However, being effortlessly out-struck by him after he had trained striking seriously for 5 months and showing zero skills when your shot doesn't work against him? Yeah, that's a bad sign.

blaseblah said:
Who are all these fighters? And Mousasi had many submission victories before O'Brien, including Mark Hunt who has been in the top 10 for years.
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Hunt sucked at MMA back then, with barely any takedown or sub defense.

Moreover, Hunt was a pure striker. So it's not surprising Mousasi subbed him. O'Brien, meanwhile, was a freaking grappler. Heavyweight grapplers aren't supposed to be subbed by middleweights with relatively weak takedown defense in 31 seconds.

That fight was absolutely embarrassing and single-handedly destroys the argument that O'Brien was some great but unlucky heavyweight.

blaseblah said:
Ask yourself, would Derrick Lewis fare any better against those fighters? He's ranked Number 2 right now.
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Yes, yes he would. Lewis would have knocked out Arlovski then, as countless others did, taking advantage of his weak chin.

He also would have shown much more, and presented far more problems for Cain and Jon Jones, although the latter is a moot point, since there is no way that Derrick Lewis would ever make 205.

And considering that Lewis would have a good chance to beat Mousasi NOW, simply due to the size difference, he would have had an even better chance against the 2009 version. (And this is coming from someone whose favorite fighter since 2008 has been Mousasi)
 
I'm truly surprised no one has mentioned this man...
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Condit. He would’ve been champ if not for the Lawler robbery.
 
EdmundHeng said:
Johny Hendricks.
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He was unlucky in the GSP decision, and the 2nd Lawler decision. But he's just on an insanely depressing downward slide. I don't know if that's bad luck or him just refusing to find another way of making money. Either way, it's been sad. I like that guy.
 
Pat Barry



Unfortunate mix of bad luck and confidence issues that seemed to stop him from pulling the trigger.
 
Sgt Smith said:
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If he had just landed that big right hand...
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Lol, it likely would have had no effect, look at his elbow, he only throws half a punch and it's slow as fuck, even if he landed with the momentum from both of them running towards eachother it would have had next to nothing on it.

I've seen this GIF 100 times and this is the first time I actually paid attention enough to notice just how horrible that "punch" really was, haha.
 
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