Crime Ferris Mueller's Election Off (Mueller thread v. 24)

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  1. Quipling

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    Previous Thread

    Current big news:

    • Jeff Sessions has resigned. Trump appointed Whittaker as acting attorney general. Whittaker's appointment has been challenged on constitutional grounds for violating the appointments clause. His oversight of the probe has been challenged and for conflict-of-interest grounds due to his previous statements and representation of a probe witness in a separate proceeding. A judge has ordered the parties to submit briefs on how Whittaker's appointment might affect the probe.
    • Cohen, Trump's former attorney, has started meeting with Mueller, bringing the SDNY and special counsel probes together
    • Per a WSJ report, Trump was a central figure in the campaign finance violations to which Michael Cohen pleaded guilty in the SDNY investigation
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    Major events so far:

    • Manafort, Trump's campaign manager and transition committee member has been indicted arising from misconduct reaching into 2017 related to payments received through 2014 from the pro-russia faction of Ukraine's pre-war government. Manafort has pleaded guilty and is expected to cooperate with federal prosecutors.
    • Michael Cohen, Trump's attorney, has pleaded guilty to campaign finance violations, which he claims to have committed at Trump's direction to influence the election. Cohen is expected to cooperate with federal prosecutors.
    • Allen Weisselberg, the Trump Org. CFO, has agreed to immunity in exchange for cooperating with federal prosecutors
    • Rick Gates has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI and conspiring (with Manafort) to commiting tax fraud, failing to register as a foreign agent, and lying to the FBI
    • George Papadopolous pleaded guilty to lying to federal investigators in 2017 about activities occuring 2016-17. Admits to meeting with various Russian officials regarding setting up meetings and "dirt" on Hillary while acting on behalf of the Trump campaign, something he previously denied. Papadopoulos is now accusing Mifsud of being a deep state plant on Twitter.
    • Mike Flynn, Trump's National Security Advisor, has also pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI with respect to several meetings that he had with the Russian ambassador. Flynn was allegedly involved in other business involving Turkey, but has not yet been charged with respect to that behavior.
    • 13 Russian indictment for activity starting in 2014 and continuing through 2017. A US citizen pleaded guilty for agreeing to help them. There is also a separate 12 count indictment targeting GRU officers
    • An attorney linked to Manafort, Gates, and a Russian oligarch has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI
    • Yohai, Manafort's former son-in-law has agreed to cooperate with the Justice Department
    • Daniels's lawsuit has somehow, insanely, gotten linked up to the Mueller investigation thanks to alleged wrongdoing and influence-peddling by Michael Cohen. Who has pleaded guilty and offered to fully cooperate.
    • Twelve Russian intelligence officers have been indicted for conspiracy against the United States and aggravated identity theft
    • Bruce Ohr, of dossier fame, has been working to obtain information from Russian oligarchs since 2014.
    • Documents relating to Manafort's guilty plea implicate Tony Podesta. Tony Podesta is the brother of Clinton's campaign advisor, John Podesta. His former firm, which is now cooperating with the probe, worked for Manafort in Ukraine.
     
  2. Happy Man

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    Do you make up the thread titles? Good show.
     
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  3. sniper

    sniper so poor.... and so black

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    Yes.
     
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    Can we talk about Whitaker please?



    A judge HAS to be New Testament to be worthy, wtf is that? Seriously, WTF is that shit?

    I was going to make a thread about this, and I still might, but holy shit.
     
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  8. Joe

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    George Papadopoulos family are trying to get the feds to go after his wife
     
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    Sure, anyone is better than Loretta Lynch.


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  11. Joe

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    Looks like Mueller is planning on staying for a bit
     
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    "Retiring Republican Sen. Jeff Flake said Wednesday that he will not vote to confirm the Trump administration's judicial nominees on the Senate floor or advance them in the Senate Judiciary Committee if legislation to protect special counsel Robert Mueller does not receive a Senate floor vote.
    Flake made the new judicial threat after he and Sen. Chris Coons, a Delaware Democrat, unsuccessfully attempted to force a Senate vote on the special counsel legislation Senate Wednesday. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell objected to the request for a vote from Flake.
    But the Arizona Republican's threats on judicial nominees could complicate matters in the Judiciary Committee, where Republicans have an 11-10 majority. There are currently 21 judicial nominees pending in the committee and 32 who are awaiting a floor vote, Flake said.
    "We have been told that the bill that Senator Coons and I will move to bring up shortly is not necessary, as there have been no indications that the independence of Mr. Mueller's investigation is in jeopardy," Flake said. "That may have been an arguable position before last week. But it is not arguable anymore."

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/14/politics/mueller-protection-bill-flake-coons/index.html
     
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    Nothing to see there, she is just one of those Italians who has a Russian accent, not weird at all.
     
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    This seems like something. Assange has been charged under seal.

    Also is donald fearing charges are going to hit too close to home?
     
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    I don't know how much should be read into the assange revelation. The office that inadvertantely leaked it is not the office of special counsel. And it's not a case with clear parallels to Mueller's investigatory threads beyond assange himself.
     
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    Whittaker is allowed to have personal opinions.

    Whittaker is allowed to have negative opinions about the Muller investigation.

    There is absolutely no reason for Whittaker to recuse himself.

    Media outrage isn't a sufficient reason.
     
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    can i recuse other people? You are recused, you are recused , you are all recused!
     
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  19. Ophydian

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    But Lisa Page and Strzok can’t?
     
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    Pretty sure it needs to be court ordered or voluntary.
     
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