Fedor speaks up about about a fight with Cain Velasquez

extreme123 said:
It's pretty hard to get a armbar when youre getting punched in the face. Cain is not a Coleman it a tiger white. He's a black belt with world class wrestling. Jds has the best tdd in the business and got smashed by Cain in fight back to back.
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when cain tries to start punching, fedor already punched him 3 times in the jaw

fedor is world class sambo master and bb in judo

and had waaaaay faster hands than cain

man he destroyed mirko satanding

cain already got humilliated on the feet
 
Prex32 said:
this
fedos ko's him or subs him easily
cain couldn't finish jds zombie
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in case you didnt know cain finished jds in their 2nd fight.
terrible example of cains flaws. no man can do to jds what
cain did to him.
 
cleber said:
when cain tries to start punching, fedor already punched him 3 times in the jaw

fedor is world class sambo master and bb in judo

and had waaaaay faster hands than cain

man he destroyed mirko satanding

cain already got humilliated on the feet
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Cro cops striking was a myth and gonzaga busted it. Fedor would swing at Cain the get taken down just like bigfoot took down fedor. If it was that easy for bigfoot why would Cain have trouble.
 
By technical difficulties he means that Cain fights every 3 years.
 
cain almost got KOd by kongo. He would be KO in rnd 1 vs Fedor.
 
There is a lot of nostalgia going on in this thread.
 
I love how Cain knocked out nog and he's pillow fisted. Later fedor ko's aa and he's power.
 
extreme123 said:
Cro cops striking was a myth and gonzaga busted it. Fedor would swing at Cain the get taken down just like bigfoot took down fedor. If it was that easy for bigfoot why would Cain have trouble.
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fedor was speaking of his prime!! read the OP

Fedor not in his prime against BF

Crocop vs Gonzaga not in his prime

crocop striking a myth???

ok....

good luck
 
Cain lacks the ability to do damage from full guard therefor easy armbar victory for the Emperor or maybe standing tko.
 
I guess I don't know enough of the technical aspect to know where Cain struggles. It sure seems like he is doing everything right. Wish there was more depth in HW and Cain fought more too. Looked like HW was getting deep but JDS can't beat Cain, Carwin retired with injuries, think Struve has been hurt, Overeem was kinda a bust, DC dropped down, Big Foot suspended, Big Country underachieves, etc. If Cain beats Werdum I don't see anybody beating him
 
So how long is it going to take, before people resort to GIFs? Can someone just post the JDSvsCain 1 gif, and the FedorvsHenderson gif so we can get it over before it even starts?
 
extreme123 said:
Cro cops striking was a myth and gonzaga busted it. Fedor would swing at Cain the get taken down just like bigfoot took down fedor. If it was that easy for bigfoot why would Cain have trouble.
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Hendo101 said:
Ya I would like to know the same thing. A "prime" Fedor vs todays Cain would be the greatest fight of all time imo.
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It would looked something like Fedor vs Herring. Prime Fedor was huge, fast, and much more deadly
 
Claude said:
Here's the way i see it:

There's an obvious gap of skills between a 2003-2005 Fedor and a current day Cain Velasquez.

Fedor at his peak actually passed his tests better than Cain. They both fought a large striker when they were working their way up to the top. Fedor fought Schilt, Cain fought Kongo. Both outgrappled and defeated their opponents, but the difference is that Cain was dropped twice while Fedor dominated that fight completely.

When they both faced an elite striker with TD defense (Crocop/JDS), Fedor won decisively, while Cain was KO'd and needed two more fights more in order to prove he was better, and when he did, it was in a terrible sloppy brawl in which both fighters gassed in less than 2-3 rounds.

These are nothing but little signs, not as for who would win the fight, but about their skills as fighters. Fedor was more skilled than Cain, and far more well rounded. That's just evident. He was also visibly faster and more powerful, a better striker and better overall grappler.

Now Cain defeated Bigfoot, who defeated a nearly retired Fedor, but that really doesn't say much other than Fedor being far past his peak, while Cain was/is probably in his. Basicly the same as Ali losing to Berbrick and Tyson defeating him. It doesn't really say much about how would Ali and Tyson match. MMAth has proven to be useless countless times.

Now when it comes to a fight, could Cain had outwrestled Fedor at his peak to win a decision?

Perhaps, but not likely. Thowing 500 "pillow fists" (and by this i mean he's a volume puncher, more than a power puncher) per round would leave Fedor with too many openings to catch him with a sub. Fedor had too many tools at his disposal off his back: subs, sweeps, great hips, excellent defense from the bottom, etc. Cain's GnP is all about volume of punches, he's not that powerful, nor he cares about picking his shots. Problem is, Fedor, was extremely hard to gnp. In fact before 2009, he never received any significant damage while on his back. He was also very durable. Cain wouldn't finish a prime Fedor, yet Fedor could finish him, anywhere.

The stand-up isn't even close. Fedor was clearly better; faster, more powerful, more explosive, more accurate, more unpredictable, etc. He lands a bomb on that chin and Cain goes down. Cain has been rocked/dropped several times already, and Fedor was a hard puncher and very explossive. I don't think Cain would pose much of a threat in this department, not even if he mixed it up. Fedor wasn't afraid to be on his back, and he would also mix his striking with upper body takedowns, and he did this very quickly.

Cain is a fighter that comes foward and likes to dictate where the fight goes, but so was Fedor, and a fighter like him wouldn't let Cain fight his fight, he would come at him and pressure him as well. Cain has shown most of the times he has good cardio, but last two times vs. JDS he was breathing heavy inside 2-3 rounds and while he was throwing a lot of punches, they weren't that powerful. Problem is, neither JDS, Kongo, Brock, Rothwell etc. had the skills to capitalize on Cain's mistakes while on the ground, but Fedor did.

Bottom line, I'd think Fedor's chances to win would've been clearly superior, as he had a lot more tools at his disposal to win and/or finish the fight, and was clearly a better overall fighter.
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This is right on. Fedor would destroy Cain. Cain is all about cardio and relentless pressure, but Fedor matches Cain's cardio.
 
cain has not the chin IN HIS PRIME

fedor simply won about 30 consecutive bouts, never koed during his prime

AND

fedor fought under much dangerous rules, and took lots of damage during those 10 years

IN SHERDOG, A FIGHTER WHO HAS 3 DEFENCES OF HIS TITLE IS BETTER THAN FEDOR (30 WITHOUT LOSING, UNBEATEN CHAMPION, DESTROYED ALL COMPETITION)

DELUSIONAL
 
cleber said:
fedor was speaking of his prime!! read the OP

Fedor not in his prime against BF

Crocop vs Gonzaga not in his prime

crocop striking a myth???

ok....

good luck
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Bigfoot not even that good and beat a 34 year old fedor if it makes you feel better to say was out of his prime that young then by all means
 
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