Fedor: Never lost in a ring. But lost almost every cage fighg?

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  1. Sakuraba7

    Sakuraba7 Black Belt

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    So only Fedor got the good steroids, everyone else was locked out and using the cheap stuff?

    MMA wasn't even a recognized sport in Russia when Fedor fought in PRIDE, so he wasn't getting state funded PEDs. But i bet you'd disagree with that too, anything to hate on Fedor and his accomplishments.

    Why did Barnet test positive but not Fedor?
     
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  2. Typrune Goatley

    Typrune Goatley Black Belt

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    No shit. Cain obviously is broken down and past it. He can't even make it to the cage anymore.

    He had a lot of injuries from wrestling and fighting just like how Fedor did from judo, Sambo and MMA.

    Drug testing was a joke in America too. Brock was the champ before Cain.
    Lol. I liked a post that said he had damage? Yes. He did have damage. Some from opponents, but more from himself from injuries. Nobody can be on top that long without beating up their body.

    Ain't nothing fake here but you.

    If you think Fedor was the exact same in 2011 that he was in 2005 then you are blind or stupid.

    Just like your boy Cain, injuries and mileage accumulate over time.
     
  3. Summoning

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    @Typrune Goatley is right
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  4. fightfan84

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    your a conor and rousey fan, no one expects any logically information to come from you anyway
     
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  5. JBJISGOAT

    JBJISGOAT Brown Belt

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    Drug testing was a lot better in America than it was in Japan. Pride encouraged its fighters to use PEDs/Steroids. That in turn helped them heal their injuries quicker and get back to training and fighting at a higher rate. Clean Cain did not have that luxury! Plus the 100 matches of wrasslin did not help. We may have never seen prime Cain. If he was using PEDS like Pride fighters, maybe he would have been able to heal quicker and train harder...

    I never said anything about Fedor in 2011 or 2005 or any other year in this post, hell this post isn't even about Fedor primes or when he fell off. It is to call you out on the stupid shit you say. The fake ass shit you say. This post is to confront you about you ranting and raving about how Fedor did not take any damage in his mythical 10 year run, yet you are liking posts that state that he did take a lot of punishment early on in his career. That is it! I have proven that you said and agreed with both, which is being a flat out hypocrite. Everything you say has to be taken with a grain of salt because of the lying shit you have said in the past and your EXTREME bias towards fedro. Hell I remember when you tried to taint GSP top 5 wins by saying that it was because of UFC hype machine rankings when GSP already had 16 top 5 wins before 2013 when the UFC rankings came out. You are always lying, always trying to play an angle, when you get called out you write a novel about irrelevant shit. Except it and change...
     
  6. Typrune Goatley

    Typrune Goatley Black Belt

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    Lol. Fedor obviously took damage, had injuries, 20 years of combat sports. Just like your boy Cain. They don't last forever.

    And yeah, I still think it is funny that Hardy and Serra were top ranked opponents for GSP.
     
  7. JBJISGOAT

    JBJISGOAT Brown Belt

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    Glad you are coming around. So he did take damage now. Hmmmmmmm.

    And...You can take those away (serra and hardy) and he STILL has plenty more top wins than your boy Fedro. And that's not what I was talking about, I was talking about you saying the only reason GSP has 18 top 5 wins is because of the UFC rankings. I had to correct you on that lying as shit as well since UFC rankings came out in 2013 and GSP already had 16 top 5 wins. Take away Hardy and Serra and that is still 14 top 5 wins which blows your boy fedro out of the water.
     
  8. JBJISGOAT

    JBJISGOAT Brown Belt

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    LOL I like how you deleted out the part where I prove that Typrune is a big ass hypocrite with the shit he says.

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  9. Unsurprised Diaz

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    I guess Fedor didn't "mesh" well in that environment
     
  10. mirror45

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    He lost to werdum, BigFoot , and Henderson in his prime
     
  11. Typrune Goatley

    Typrune Goatley Black Belt

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    Fedor was the least hit. That was real stats.

    He obviously took a little damage from Fujita and Cro Cop. He broke his hand repeatedly smashing dudes. That was actually in the news many times when he had to cancel fights. I imagine there were other injuries too but we don't always hear everything all the way from Russia. Fedor was a very private man too. He is not just going to come out and announce his injuries/weaknesses.

    But as an educated fight fan we can see fighters go through transformations and decline.

    We know that these fighters' bodies break down over time. Nobody thinks JDS, or Cain, or BJ Penn are still in their prime, yet you think Fedor was supposed to remain the same for more than 10 years? 10 years is a long time. I am sorry you missed it.
     
  12. JBJISGOAT

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    Cool stories bruh...

    But this is all irrelevant to what you previously stated AND the whole reason of me calling you out. You cannot backpedal out of this one. The facts are facts. You stated that fedor took limited damage during his 10 year mythical run, yet like a post (basically agreeing with the post) that states that Fedor took a lot of damage early on in his career. Cannot be both mate!
     
  13. Typrune Goatley

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    Lol. How am I a hypocrite? For liking a post that said he had damage and mileage?

    Why don't you go train Judo, Sambo and MMA for the next 20 years, defend a world title for 7 years, go spar Aleksandr, go break your hand on multiple HWs' heads and then come back and tell me there was no damage.

    You know nothing about fighting or training.
     
  14. Typrune Goatley

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    How is it so hard for you understand?

    Only Fujita and Cro Cop really hit him during his streak. (HMC a little too)

    His body probably broke down more from injuries (like his hand 10x), judo career, Sambo career concurrent with a 40 fight MMA career.

    Statistically he was the best defensive fighter. It doesn't mean his body wasn't taking damage from training, fighting, injuries and everything else.

    You accept Cain's decline but not Fedor's?
     
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  15. JBJISGOAT

    JBJISGOAT Brown Belt

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    LOL ok kid. I am sure you are some tough guy! I was an actual athlete in HS and college while you were not!

    And he did not say anything about mileage, he said he took a lot of damage EARLY on his career...contrary to what you always preach...yet you agreed with his statement. I have already put all of the facts in a post. Just stop, you sound like a desperate idiot now.
     
  16. JBJISGOAT

    JBJISGOAT Brown Belt

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    He SAID EARLY on his career he took a lot of damage, said NOTHING about mileage. You agreed with his statement yet you preach the opposite. Fake as fuck. Just give it up kid, you are wrong. I have outlined the FACTS with what you said!
     
  17. Typrune Goatley

    Typrune Goatley Black Belt

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    Lol. I have been an athlete my whole life. I played every sport as a kid. I wrestled in HS and have several years of training in boxing, Muay Thai, TMA's, BJJ, MMA. I still train 6 days a week, usually twice a day. Martial arts is my job and my life.

    Damage, mileage, whatever. Get over it. Every fighter's body breaks down eventually. Especially after 20 years of judo, Sambo and MMA.

    You can accept Cain and JDS were shot but you can't understand how it also happened to Fedor? Welcome to MMA and welcome to sports, you fucking noob.
     
  18. superpunch

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    What about against Fujita?
     
  19. JBJISGOAT

    JBJISGOAT Brown Belt

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    ask @Typrune Goatley

    This is a quote from him.
     
  20. JBJISGOAT

    JBJISGOAT Brown Belt

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    Wow you played EVERY sport as a kid??? Holy shit there are approx. 8,000 sports/sporting games in the world and you played EVERY one of them. That is impressive.
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    "Every fighter body breaks down eventually"...I agree with that. The thing is that you stated that Fedro took the least amount of damage, yet agree with another poster claiming that Fedor took a lot of damage early on in his career. Cannot be both dumb shit!
     

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