Fedor Fans, How Do You Explain

[Franc Mittelo]

JDS - declined by 32
Cain - declined by 32
Vovchanchyn - retired by 32
Sylvia - declined by 32
Noguiera - declined by 32
Mir- declined by 32
Aldo - declined by 32
GSP - declined by 32
Shogun - declined by 32
Bigfoot - declined by 32
Mir - declined by 32
F Shamrock - declined by 32
Ortiz - declined by 32
Wanderlei - declined by 32
Forrest - declined by 32

GSP just won the UFC's MW belt via finish. His first finish in 7 years or something like that. Cain is often injured. I wouldn't call it declined.

Aldo lost to the same guy twice, and once to a much bigger guy. He recently beat Frankie Edgar EASILY, who is challenging for the FW belt. We don't know if Aldo has declined.

All the other guys you posted are not in the GOAT conversation, and rightfully so. You keep adding to my argument.

 

[Fight Professor]

He wasn't out of his prime. He looked fine in speed and movement until he started to lose. He faced 2 huge guys in a row that weren't intimidated and took it to him. I cant explain the Hendo fight though. Fedor never changed his training, and never changed his gameplan. He got figured.

Fedor does not practice his ground game which made him very dangerous, mostly trains with kickboxers and brawls now. His speed and well roundness that made his great is now lost.

 

[Rampage_Jackson]

Fedor fans don't need to explain anything to ignorant Fedor haters lol

 

[Takes_Two_To_Tango]

it's not the years, it's the mileage. Fedor candle burns at both ends.

 

[Sirwastealot]

That's a really dumb question TS. You should know the answer if you've watched MMA, or any sport at all, for a while.

 

[Bubblun]

Are you saying Fedor had no injuries?

lmao

Then tell me what kind of injuries Fedor had instead of trolling as usual, Fedor never said anything, the man is a mistery.
Everyone know of the hand problems, but that's not career compromising if it heals, Cormier broke his hand multiple times during the beginning of his career and he is still fighting.

 

[FKA]

Gegard Mousasi, according to Wikipedia, being 32 years old, with a record of 43-6-2, and not being "out of his prime"?

Compare this to Fedor (since some of you think he is the Gold Standard), who was 29-1(NC) at the same age, and already "out of his prime" according all his fans.

Explain.

Fedor also competed in a second full contact sport along with mma at the same time going undefeated in both for years......he never stopped training and fighting and it catches up with you eventually.Along with his military service,judo career........hes put his body through a shitload.

Even now post prime he doesn't have free time barely enough to put together a full training camp the guy has a million obligations and never misses them.

 

[fartsniffer]

What's your point?

You can speculate, but you can't say Fedor was tainted. He was always an undersized pudgy HW. He beat a lot of bigger/obviously roided fighters. What he did is impossible for most, but not unrealistic. Just look at DC (not better than Fedor btw).

A Russian would never take peds in an org that openly encourages their use.

 

[FKA]

Btw fedor dove into werdum guard not because of sheer lunacy, but because he had hurt werdum on the feet and dropped him .......but werdum pretended to be hurt more then he was (something he practiced throughout training camp)and lured fedor into a trap.

Werdum is a master submission specialist Cain got tapped just as well.


The loss to Bigfoot was more devastating but again at that time Bigfoot was on TRT and was nearly 300lbs ,as we seen he went on to knock out overeem and Travis Browne when he had hype and went to war with Mark hunt for 5 rounds and got a ufc title shot......not a bad loss Bigfoot was a top HW once.(off TRT he looked average at best.

 

[kenetics]

Gegard Mousasi, according to Wikipedia, being 32 years old, with a record of 43-6-2, and not being "out of his prime"?

Compare this to Fedor (since some of you think he is the Gold Standard), who was 29-1(NC) at the same age, and already "out of his prime" according all his fans.

Explain.

You must not train lol. Everyone body ages quicker than others. Fedor was a fast twitch fighter. In his twenties he was a monster. When he hit thirty he slowed down greatly.

 

[Homervanderjaz]

Gegard Mousasi, according to Wikipedia, being 32 years old, with a record of 43-6-2, and not being "out of his prime"?

Compare this to Fedor (since some of you think he is the Gold Standard), who was 29-1(NC) at the same age, and already "out of his prime" according all his fans.

Explain.

People age and peak differently. Not saying Fedor was necessarily out his prime when he started getting beat.. however what I have said is true. George Best, footballing great, was washed up by 27. Ryan Giggs not as played at top level until 40...

 

[TrueFightFan]

I have adjusted for both fighters' ages. At 32, Fedor was 30 or so fights deep, and already "out of his prime." At 32, Mousasi is 50 or so fights deep, and still able to beat the very best.

I don't believe Fedor had taken more than at 32 than Mousasi. So, it is strange that a GOAT will drop off at an age where GOATs are still dominant. Weird.

You aren't taking into account the level of competition that they face. Mousasi was not punched in the head by heavyweights his first 32 fights and still got beat. Let Mousasi fight at his "natural weight" like Fedor does and let's see how those first 32 go. NO HEAVYWEIGHT has been able to accomplish that feat. I don't think that we will ever see another one repeat that streak, either. Your "once in a lifetime" guy has been beat, twice, now in less than 15 fights. One to a solid opponent in Miocic and the other to a "can". According to many Sherdogs' logic, Ngannou should have stomped all of his "cans" but he was not able to. People will say, "well he is inexperienced" or "he is still new to the sport", blah, blah, blah.... Fedor fought for 10 years, rookie to champion and never lost. That in itself is pretty incredible and then age sets in and now he becomes a "nobody" to many fans? Come on, Mittelo... come on.

 

[TrueFightFan]

You must not train lol. Everyone body ages quicker than others. Fedor was a fast twitch fighter. In his twenties he was a monster. When he hit thirty he slowed down greatly.

Lol. I have played a lot of sports and continue to play, even in my old age, but I was never much of a "fast twitch" guy. However, whatever it was that I had that was "twitching", started "twitching" a whole hell of a lot slower in my 30's and hardly twitches at all in my 40's.

And before my Sherbrothers start in on me about my "nether regions" twitching, it has never failed me but I can't say the same for my knees and my back

 

[TrueFightFan]

JDS - declined by 32
Cain - declined by 32
Vovchanchyn - retired by 32
Sylvia - declined by 32
Noguiera - declined by 32
Mir- declined by 32
Aldo - declined by 32
GSP - declined by 32
Shogun - declined by 32
Bigfoot - declined by 32
Mir - declined by 32
F Shamrock - declined by 32
Ortiz - declined by 32
Wanderlei - declined by 32
Forrest - declined by 32

Keep going! Don't stop, I don't think he gets it yet.

 

[markg171]

Blaming the lossess on being out of his prime let's them cope with the fact that he actually simply made mistakes and rightfully paid for them.

 

[I Am Legion]

I think Fedor haters like to dismiss him as a guy who was good but not great because he faced too many sub par guys. They argue the nuthuggers use guys like Tim Sylvia as a huge win even though he lost to Randy and Nog right before and was never the same. Then he lost to the best fighters he faced. But beating Nog and Cc, and even Arlovski can’t be refuted.

The Lovers make nothing but excuses for his losses and his fighting of cans or spectacle fights, out of weight class fights etc. they claim the 10 year streak is amazing even though there are fights that are laughable in there. Fedor is God no matter the proof otherwise. They don’t even care he took Joke fights after his losses.

I’m in the middle. I think he is one of the greatest for sure. But I agree he fought too many nobodies for the streak to matter. I also don’t count many of the better guys he faced as elite competition....guys like Timmy, Coleman, Goodridge, Randleman....meh. I do believe he lost to the better fighter in Werdum and Bigfoot and it wasn’t age. Hendo could have been, especially after his beating by Bigfoot. Mitrione def is age.

 

[PEDS Help me Post]

GSP just won the UFC's MW belt via finish. His first finish in 7 years or something like that. Cain is often injured. I wouldn't call it declined.

Aldo lost to the same guy twice, and once to a much bigger guy. He recently beat Frankie Edgar EASILY, who is challenging for the FW belt. We don't know if Aldo has declined.

All the other guys you posted are not in the GOAT conversation, and rightfully so. You keep adding to my argument.

Yeah, against a cherry-picked one-eyed opponent who is older than GSP and is about to retire. Why didn't he stay and fight Whittaker if he's still in his prime? Or fight Woodley?

Nice excuses for Aldo. He fought a bigger guy? Oh, poor thing. Unfortunately for your narrative, Fedor was 35+ lbs smaller than Bigfoot, 10 lbs. smaller than Werdum and 20 lbs smaller than Mitrione.

Also, Edgar is even older than Aldo. Coincidentally, Edgar also lost 3 in a row .... at guess what age? 31 years old. Mmmmm.... sounds familiar.


Which other GOATs are you talking about then?

Jones? He's not even 32 yet and he won't be fighting for years.
Stipe? He's only 35 but most of his fights are against people older than him. His record is 4-2 against younger fighters.
Mighty Mouse? Not 32 yet either.

 

[UhHuhSure]

2 different people obviously. think about that.

A =/= B

 

[Okajima]

He found God and started losing.

 

[PEDS Help me Post]

Then tell me what kind of injuries Fedor had instead of trolling as usual, Fedor never said anything, the man is a mistery.
Everyone know of the hand problems, but that's not career compromising if it heals, Cormier broke his hand multiple times during the beginning of his career and he is still fighting.

Multiple broken hands and thumbs, multiple broken noses, broken toe.

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