International Fedor Emelianenko on Ukraine, US supported fascism, Crimea (+ENG subs)

[EradiatedHaggis]

Actually Fedor was in office at one point too. He was elected state deputy back in 2010. He also worked for the federal government but I'm not sure what was his job. Something related to sports.

Fedor was elected to a Duma. Its an assembly of advisers...his was for sports. it make him a politician. But, point taken.

 

[Gandhi]

You haven't really said anything relevant to the topic other than Fedor is not worth listening too. I disagree with that. There is not much more to say because you haven't watched the clip and can't address the actual material.

At this point you are derailing the thread.

What material?

Fedor is not exactly doing more than repeating generalized talking points.

He is supporting a country essentially annexing a part of another country based on an appeal to common ethnicity. That should sound familiar because it’s straight out of the nazis play book.

He then accuses the USA and Europe of supporting fascism while he says we should thank the Soviet Union for its own blatant form of democracy destroying soviet imperialism. Capitalism has its imperialistic sordid past but let’s not white wash the USSRs role in walling off half of Europe and participating in its side of the manipulation of the developing world during the Cold War.

And if we are looking for plain fascism, a symbiotic authoritarian relationship between government and the capitalists ruling class that enlists myths of the national common man and a romanized need to reclaim a past glory that really never existed, seems like a good basic working definition. That’s Putin’s Russia in a nut shell. For its faults the West does not compare to Russia on the fascist scale.

So agree with @EradiatedHaggis, Fedor should stick to his awesome ground and pound.

 

[irish_thug]

So the common man's opinion does not matter on politics? He/she should just be led around by the so called elites? What makes you think a sportsman or the common man doesn't know what is going on, that he is now aware of the world around him via reading and observation? Politics and social issues are not professions that require a technical understanding of the subject matter, like engineering for example.

It matters. It should, however, be taken with a grain of salt.

 

[all caps]

So the common man's opinion does not matter on politics? He/she should just be led around by the so called elites? What makes you think a sportsman or the common man doesn't know what is going on, that he is now aware of the world around him via reading and observation? Politics and social issues are not professions that require a technical understanding of the subject matter, like engineering for example.

This is a great post.

 

[ShinkanPo]

I think he's wrong about the USA supporting fascism.

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[all caps]

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Did you see those nazi mods delete my incredible contribution to this thread?

 

[VivaRevolution]

LMAO @ sofie's choice for the WR.

 

[ShinkanPo]

Let me be the one to get this shit back on track

Fedor was ALWAYS overrated and never the GOAT of anything but wearing wood crosses and eating ice cream

But how many scoops?

 

[ShinkanPo]

Did you see those nazi mods delete my incredible contribution to this thread?

Reported.

You dead.

 

[Seaside]

Are these graphs stating Ukraine is mostly russian, or most Ukrainians speak russian instead of Ukrainian?

Mostly ukrainians who speak russian and hold pro russian and pro eurasian union views and politicsl or philsophocal views.

Ethnic Ukrainians and many ethnic russians and belarusians are practically the same people. Ukrainians may be more white with less turanid or dinaric influences or less pronounced baltoid features. Were as belarusians are more nordic from what i recall. So what diffrentiates an ethnic ukrainian or russian is more about their own identity or place if birth. Fedor was born in ukraine but identitfies as Russian and views the people as the same.

In terms of identity many ukrainians are the same and see themselves as one in the same. But in terms of census done by ukraine government many identify as ethnic ukrainian if they are from a line of so called ethnics.

Actually Fedor was in office at one point too. He was elected state deputy back in 2010. He also worked for the federal government but I'm not sure what was his job. Something related to sports.

Fedor should become governor of belgorod oblast. Fedor bless

So the common man's opinion does not matter on politics? He/she should just be led around by the so called elites? What makes you think a sportsman or the common man doesn't know what is going on, that he is now aware of the world around him via reading and observation? Politics and social issues are not professions that require a technical understanding of the subject matter, like engineering for example.

See my other post. He is a bot or troll. So obvuous ukraine needs to be partioned just like syria.

The US supports communism in china, ethnonationalism in Israel, socialism in Sweden, globalism pretty much everywhere, etc etc
Basically they support everyone given the right circumstances. As do most geopolitical strategies.

Whether Ukraine is fascist or whether or not it's more Russia painting them way to garner support for annexation, well I don't know.

Ukraine is. The US and western allies did help the coup there. What is interesting though is Trump and kushner types and donald jr anf their advisors and associates gaining power. It shows a shift in Washigtons foreign policy and to me proves it isnt 1 track minded and many powers compete for power. Different factions and ideologoes.

 

[Based and White Pilled]

You really believe that the US supports fascism? Fedor is completely on Putin side over everything.

Why does that make him wrong?




Although, saying that the USSR stopped fascism for stopping Nazi Germany while being what they were is laughable. Nazis don't have a monopoly on being shitty, Communists.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Why does that make him wrong?




Although, saying that the USSR stopped fascism for stopping Nazi Germany while being what they were is laughable. Nazis don't have a monopoly on being shitty, Communists.

But we were the monster.com for former Nazi spies right?

Fedor is right if his point was that we literally supported Nazi's to oppose communism.

 

[Rusk]

And if we are looking for plain fascism, a symbiotic authoritarian relationship between government and the capitalists ruling class that enlists myths of the national common man and a romanized need to reclaim a past glory that really never existed, seems like a good basic working definition. That’s Putin’s Russia in a nut shell. For its faults the West does not compare to Russia on the fascist scale.

I see a lot of horseshit.... Glory that never existed? Russia conquered half of Europe, and send man/dog/woman into space. Only that is enough glory for for 1 century.
Also ievery "important" right-winger is in jail or being closely watched. Besides Russian laws (paragraph 282) is very effective at punishing people for almost any form of nationalism. All that disqualifies Russia from being Fascist.

I would say on a "piece of shit" (no freedom of speech, wars, killing civilians etc) scale both Russia and the West are equal.

Lastly there is definitely relationship between government and the capitalists ruling class in the West too.

 

[irish_thug]

Did you see those nazi mods delete my incredible contribution to this thread?

I will have you know I moved them, I did not delete them

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Already moved it to the lounge

 

[faustian]

Umm, he is a politician and thus someone who at least has some form of credible basis so falls under what I was talking about. Fedor has no credibility and the video shows it. His opinion contained no concrete information to support his point of view.

I have zero doubt that Klitschko would have given data and would have been far more articulate even if he was giving propaganda.

Holy autism Batman. Dude you're so hard up to spam post you don't even realize when you're brutally contradicting yourself

Anyone listening to a professional fighter about the state of the world is not an intelligent person...not even Cro-Cop and at least he was elected into office once.

 

[all caps]

I will have you know I moved them, I did not delete them

Dont fall victim to my cheap tricks bro

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Fedor is the #1 HW GOAT.

That said, he's just a fighter, and I couldn't give a fuck less about what any fighter says about politics, national or international, reguardless if I agree or disagree.

 

[grimballer]

He’s right.

Us was heavily involved in Ukrainian coup n some of groups involved were anti Russian far right nationalists

As for Ukrainians n Russian being same ppl...

Ukraine literally means borderland

N it was border between lech (poles) n rus (Russians)

So Ukrainians are poles (in the west) n Russians (in the east)

 

[Rusk]

Ukraine literally means borderland

no it means (Окраина) Outskirts

Borderlands would be (Граница). Totally different word.

N it was border between lech (poles) n rus (Russians)

So Ukrainians are poles (in the west) n Russians (in the east)

Genetically speaking "pure" Slavs (not talking about half Slavs and Fins in northern Russia) from East to West are virtually identical.

 

[Prutfis]

lol. Nothing about how Putin has plundered Russia and is basically a wannabe dictator? No? Then STFU.