FBI assessing another Trump / Russia collusion dossier

https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-russia-dossier-fbi-cody-shearer-second-christopher-steele-clinton-putin-a8186376.html?amp

Might want to check out the guy behind this thing

He's also one of the guys who tried to intimidate and blackmail the bimbos during the Clinton Presidency


You mean that when this started and the unknown republican paid to start the FusGPS investigation that people on the left already thought that Trump would win the nomination?

Come on that doesn't even make sense. At the time the dossier was originally being compiled all the major talking heads from both parties thought Trump would be an afterthought once a few candidates dropped out.
 
Okay you want to play this game?

Why didn’t the “secret society” leak the fact that the Trump campaign was under investigation at the same time Clinton was getting hammered for corruption?

The Russia investigation started in the summer of 2016, and it was Obama’s decision not to make it public.

If they were trying to subvert democracy and bring down Trump, why did they stay quiet and keep tarnishing Clinton's image through public statements and leaks from the NYC field office?

If the FBI was trying to rig the election for Clinton, then they should be disbanded as an organization because they’re clearly too incompetent engage in basic critical thinking exercises much less investigate and solve major crimes.

It was all part of Hillary's nefarious plot to have her Illuminati moles damage her own campaign so Trump could win. If you can't understand why then it's not worth explaining.
 
dos·si·er
ˈdôsēˌā,ˈdäsēˌā/
noun
noun: dossier; plural noun: dossiers
  1. a collection of documents about a particular person, event, or subject.
mem·o
ˈmemō/
noun
informal
noun: memo; plural noun: memos
  1. a written message, especially in business.
re·port
rəˈpôrt/
noun

noun: report; plural noun: reports
  1. 1.
    an account given of a particular matter, especially in the form of an official document, after thorough investigation or consideration by an appointed person or body.
    "the chairman's annual report"
    synonyms: account, review, record, description, statement;More
    transactions, proceedings, transcripts, minutes
    "a full report on the meeting"
    • a spoken or written description of an event or situation, especially one intended for publication or broadcast in the media.
      "press reports suggested that the government was still using secret police to help maintain public order"
      synonyms: story, account, article, piece, item, column, feature, bulletin, dispatch
      "newspaper reports"
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Who is afraid?
The people willing to release classified information in a memo in the hopes that it will invalidate a fisa warrant and stop Mueller's investigation.

never heard the word dossier uttered once in the news regarding clinton .. first time I heard it was when they were reporting on trump
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/28/politics/benghazi-scandal-report-hillary-clinton/index.html
What does the report say?
The report contains no bombshell revelations, nor any new evidence of wrongdoing by Clinton, but it does fault the Obama administration for security lapses.
The dossier paints a picture of bureaucratic ineptitude, a rapidly worsening security in Libya and inadequate resources in the months that led up to the killing of Stevens and his three colleagues.

CNN always be trying to make things sound official in order to stick it to Clinton and Obama.
 
Obviously everything in the memo if they didn’t even bother saying that anything in the memo was false.


Quit trying to pull the “prove a negative” bullshit.

If there was something in the memo that the FBI wanted to challenge factually they would have. But there’s not and they didn’t.

Lace em up and take a lap, son.
This is not how accusations work....

Either the accusation is factually verified, or its not.

Something doesn't become true because it hasn't been proven false.

The original dossier was opposition research that got leaked to the media in order to obtain a FISA warrant on an AMERICAN CITIZEN.

Secret courts for foreigners and foreign assets are 1 thing, but using such a process on an american citizen is unethical and unconstitutional.

There probably should be no such thing as a secret court in the first place.

I dont like Trump, but i hate deep state coups far worse. Stop rooting on these crooks....because if they can do it to Trump, its a matter of when, not if, they do it to a candidate you like.

Wrong is wrong, even if you dislike the person being wronged.....have some damn principles and recognize what this is. It is a bloodless overthrow/smear campaign of an elected american president by unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats who think they have more right to run the country than the will of the people.

I say this as someone who thinks Trump is a terrible president. Ethics, proper procedure and constitutionality are more important than the desires of the permanent state.
 
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It's like "innocent until proven guilty". A claim must be considered true unless and until it is proven false.
Innocent until proven guilty implies the opposite. That a claim is not true until it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt with the burden of proof laying on the accuser.

Someone doesn't make a criminal charge against someone where the burden is on the accused to disprove the allegation.
 
Innocent until proven guilty implies the opposite. That a claim is not true until it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt with the burden of proof laying on the accuser.

Someone doesn't make a criminal charge against someone where the burden is on the accused to disprove the allegation.

As the intellectual posters like to say. If Trump is not guilty why doesn't he provide evidence he is innocent.

I mean jeez. You just can not argue that iron clad line of thinking
 
Innocent until proven guilty implies the opposite. That a claim is not true until it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt with the burden of proof laying on the accuser.

Someone doesn't make a criminal charge against someone where the burden is on the accused to disprove the allegation.

You don't say... :rolleyes:
 
As the intellectual posters like to say. If Trump is not guilty why doesn't he provide evidence he is innocent.

I would be satisfied just hearing a single, rational explanation for why every witness from the State Department and US Embassy were working under the assumption that the WH wanted Zelensky to publicly announce an investigation into Biden's work at Burisma before the the military aid would be released.

Either that or an admission that that was, in fact, the clear directive from the WH and then a feasible argument as to why such an action was not an abuse of the office of the presidency.

Pretty basic stuff. But even these bread crumbs have never been offered.
 
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