Favourite historical battle?

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  1. europe1

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    Salamis (EDIT: Meant Plataea) > Thermopylae

    Thermopylae was basically the Persian Emperor running into a Spartan king and his elite guard and slaughtering all of them with not much resources spent while simultaniously conquering the most easily defended area in Greece. It's just a propeganda battle after the fact.

    Salamis was pretty darn epic though.

    By that point the Macedonian Phalanx was a shadow of it's former self thought. They'd long forgotten the "hammer" part of the "hammer and anvil" strategy that Alexander mastered. And the Macedonian state just didn't have the kind of infrastructure necessary to field a proficient army.

    4th Crusade is the P4P funniest of all the Crusades. And that quite a statement when you have the 5th and the 7th crusade to content with.

    The Battle of Tours is a battle that we know next-to-nothing about except for the fact that it happened -- so we have no idea how it actually went down. Hell, we don't even know if the Franks were fighting an Umayyad raiding force or an actual Umayyad army.
     
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    @europe1 I've never heard of that battle.
     
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    Battle of Leyte Gulf
     
  4. europe1

    europe1 It´s a nice peninsula to Asia

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    Meant Battle of Plataea. Salamis was a naval engagement.
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    Haha I haven't heard of either one. Off to do research! Thank you, sir.
     
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  6. europe1

    europe1 It´s a nice peninsula to Asia

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    Good old super-ambitious naval landings.

    May be the greatest battle with the worst film about it though. :D
     
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    Battle of the Bastards...
     
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    Just for the pure arrogance and ineptitude.
     
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    Battle of Agincourt. Where the largely outnumbered English and Welsh archers had a field day with the French cavalry. This is one of the best examples of winning against the odds.

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    This was during the hundred years war between England and France during the 15th century. Two months before the battle, King Henry V had crossed the English Channel with 11,000 men and laid siege to Harfleur in Normandy. After five weeks the town surrendered, but Henry lost half his men to disease and battle casualties. He decided to march his army northeast to Calais, where he would meet the English fleet and return to England. At Agincourt, however, a vast French army of 36,000 men stood in his path, greatly outnumbering the exhausted English archers, knights, and men-at-arms who numbered at 6000.


    The English were mainly archers and bowmen. 5/6 of their men consisted of them and the rest were cavalry.


    The French had 10,000 knights and men-at-arms and thousands of other infantry, crossbowmen and archers made up the rest.


    The English being on the defence set up barriers and waited for the French to charge towards them. The wet fields and high ground gave the English an advantage as it slowed the French down during their charge and gave them easier aim. This worked perfectly as wave after wave of French cavalry charge was met with the English archers spraying them arrows before they could reach them.

    The end result was an annihilation of the large French army by the English. Being outnumbered with a ratio of 6 to 1 the English inflicted casualties of over 15000 on the French while losing only 600 of their men.
    The remaining French retreated and captured soldiers were later executed by the English.
     
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    The battle of Tours in 732 AD. Charles Martel and his men saved Europe!
     
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    it was actually pretty genius, in that the entire book/movie is intentionally told in hyperbole (from a characters pov) as people are prone to do.
     
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    We need another Martell/King Alfonso.
     
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    "The Great Patriotic War was won with British brains, American steel and Russian blood"

    - Russian saying.
     
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    Never saw the movie, what's it called?
     
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    They should not have killed those Mongol envoys. That was the wrong thing to do
     
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    It's listed on Wikipedia's "List of films considered the worst of all time" page:D
     
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    Battle of Plataea doesn’t happen unless they win the battle of Salamis. They might not have the battle of Salamis if they don’t have enough time to vacate Athens before the Persians arrive to sack it after Thermopylae.

    What we do know about Tours is that Abdul Rahman was killed and stops their advance into Western Europe.

    Estimates of between 20-80k Moors but more likely 30k were there versus around 20k of Frankish/Burgundian forces. Also Charles won without cavalry which was very impressive regardless of any battle but especially against the Umayyad who had good heavy cavalry that had already decimated other Frankish forces a decade earlier. He basically used phalanx type of well trained heavy infantry to stop the cavalry charges while also being uphil and having the forest as cover. He outmaneuvered and outsmarted Rahman who was a good commander.

    The Moors got greedy as they heard that the Franks were attacking their base camp and stealing their loot so they began to withdraw to save their booty and in the ensuing chaos Rahman was killed and thus ended the battle.
     
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