Expect big changes in college sports if tax reform passes

Without the money from big sports and title nine the money to pay for sports nobody watches goes away. Those sports go away. Those scholarships go away. These will heavily be minorities probably, not sure. That means less people on scholarship and those sports graduate people unlike basketball or football. So fewer kids go to college free or partially paid. This is the only way some of these people go to school.

"Without the money from big sports and title nine the money to pay for sports nobody watches goes away. Those sports go away."

- Why? How? Is wrestling not allowed to fund raise for themselves? I didn't realize they weren't allowed to. Can the wrestling programs in the US simply leave the NCAA and join a non-profit like NCWA and get their funding that way? Can wrestling conferences make a deal with FLO and do their own revinew share?

"Those scholarships go away."

- So?
- Same as above. No one would have a problem if a computer science major was on a scholarship/getting a stipend/on a fellowship from Apple. So, why is it controversial if a football booster wants to pay a stipend to a student that is at college to play football?


"That means less people on scholarship and those sports graduate people unlike basketball or football."
- Outside of the profit making sports, the "full ride" is about as common as Bigfoot. Athletes in the non-revinew sports have accepted the norm of the 9.9 scholarships(or less) per team for a while now. Heck, former 2X national wrestling champ, Cole Konrad started his career in college on a "books only" scholarship.

"So fewer kids go to college free or partially paid."
- Do grants still exists?

"This is the only way some of these people go to school."
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"Without the money from big sports and title nine the money to pay for sports nobody watches goes away. Those sports go away."

- Why? How? Is wrestling not allowed to fund raise for themselves? I didn't realize they weren't allowed to. Can the wrestling programs in the US simply leave the NCAA and join a non-profit like NCWA and get their funding that way? Can wrestling conferences make a deal with FLO and do their own revinew share?

"Those scholarships go away."

- So?
- Same as above. No one would have a problem if a computer science major was on a scholarship/getting a stipend/on a fellowship from Apple. So, why is it controversial if a football booster wants to pay a stipend to a student that is at college to play football?


"That means less people on scholarship and those sports graduate people unlike basketball or football."
- Outside of the profit making sports, the "full ride" is about as common as Bigfoot. Athletes in the non-revinew sports have accepted the norm of the 9.9 scholarships(or less) per team for a while now. Heck, former 2X national wrestling champ, Cole Konrad started his career in college on a "books only" scholarship.

"So fewer kids go to college free or partially paid."
- Do grants still exists?

"This is the only way some of these people go to school."
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Just saying your plan hurts women and minorities the most. As Long as you’re ok with that
 
Season tickets could be written off as donations!?

Capital donations. Most athletic foundations require a capital donation to even buy tickets. Donation levels can also pay into seating, ticket, and parking priority. This is going to make a lot of people very pissed.
 
Schools shouldn't be paying coaches millions of dollars, if the players aren't being paid.
Are the schools (taxpayers) really paying those salaries OR are boosters supplementing those salaries?

I'm asking because I'm really curious.

- Is Nick Saban really an employee of the state of Alabama and gets his paychecks from the taxpayers?
- Are boosters(like car dealers in Tuscaloosa) allowed to pool money into a fund that goes towards his package?
 
Capital donations. Most athletic foundations require a capital donation to even buy tickets. Donation levels can also pay into seating, ticket, and parking priority. This is going to make a lot of people very pissed.

Seriously? Interesting.
 
Seriously? Interesting.

Yeah. So for instance, for A&M football tickets, I pay an annual donation to the foundation, a seat license, and then face value for tickets. That donation would have been tax deductable, but it won't be now. It's fucked, especially considering our AD is self sustainable and pays into academics.
 
Just saying your plan hurts women and minorities the most. As Long as you’re ok with that

How does my plan hurt women and minorities?

Hypothetical 12th grade student, Becky Bullworth:

Becky loves two things in life, golf and mechanical engineering.

However, Becky doesn't have the money to pay for the full tuition at Big State University.

Plus, since golf is only allotted 6 scholarships for their women's program, she accepts the fact that a golf scholarship will only get her enough money to cover a handful of books at the bookstore, and nothing else.

However, about 20 minutes from her hometown is the HQ of Caterpillar (the industrial/construction manufacturer). They read about Becky's interest in engineering and decide to:

- give her a stipend each semester as long as she keeps her grades up.
- cover the costs for her dining expenses
- offer her a fellowship once she graduates (or even a summer internship)

Titlist wants to ensure they get their name out there with a future titan of industry. Therefore, they pay for all of her room & board for her five years at college. As long as she only plays with their equipment AND has a poster of their products on her dorm walls at all times.


Becky is happy.
Caterpillar is happy
Titlist is happy.
Becky's family is happy

Why does the NCAA not want Becky happy?
 
What's The Advocate like as a paper? Anyone know it?

I think it would be right up your alley.

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http://kwese.espn.com/college-footb...tickets-forcing-universities-make-other-plans

Some creative ways to get around the excise tax for salaries for highly paid coaches.

Some schools are asking for three years of donations to get benefits now for season tickets.

In a plan they have loosely called "Pay It Forward," the Sooners have suggested that donors consider paying the next three years of fees in this calendar year, so that they could get the deduction.
 
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