Example of MSM "fake news"

[Cuauhtemoc]

According to some outlets, president Trump just gave away some very sensitive information to Rodrigo Duterte of the Philippines in a phone talk during April 29. Or at least, they write in a way that gives you that impression while maintaining plausible deniability.

https://www.ft.com/content/0a89d7f4-408a-11e7-9d56-25f963e998b2

Mr Trump said Philippines strongman Rodrigo Duterte was doing “an unbelievable job on the drug problem” in a leaked transcript of their call this year. He was referring to Mr Duterte’s war on drugs, which has involved a brutal extrajudicial killing campaign that has left thousands dead. Elliot Hannon argues that the comments prove that Mr Trump “does not believe in American values”. In that same call, Mr Trump told Mr Duterte that the US had two nuclear submarines near North Korea — the latest disclosure of sensitive intelligence by the president that has the US national security apparatus fuming. (WaPo, Slate, BuzzFeed)

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-submarines-idUSKBN18K15Y

U.S. President Donald Trump told his Philippine counterpart that Washington has sent two nuclear submarines to waters off the Korean peninsula, the New York Times said, comments likely to raise questions about his handling of sensitive information.

According to Buzzfeed, it's even worse
https://www.buzzfeed.com/nancyyouss...-disclosure-of?utm_term=.jpO30o0Ka#.ulRD1214N

“We never talk about subs!” three defense officials told BuzzFeed News after a transcript of a call between President Trump and Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte was published.

But is it true that we never talk about the subs? Let's find out.

See this tweet from CNN from 25 April:

It describes how a nuclear submarine(all american submarines are nuclear right now) reached South Korea. They even recorded it.

The navy itself also published it:
http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=100072

They also published the arrival of the second submarine:
http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=100221

So, except if Trump gave exact bearings on the submarine, the information was already made public before his call and it wasn't that big of a deal.
In fact, it's obvious China and Russia already know the general position of most submarines, when they dock into ports. What they cannot know is the exact location when they're in the ocean, so they can't target them in case of nuclear war.

 

[Madmick]

Looks like the tweet concerns a public show of force with the USS Michigan, and his call involved not only that sub, but the USS Carl Vinson, too.

So my presumption is that the comment we "don't talk about subs" involves those that aren't publicly revealed to be on patrol amid tension, as part of routine drills, and in particular to the USS Carl Vinson.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-submarines-idUSKBN18K15Y




But is it true that we never talk about the subs? Let's find out.

See this tweet from CNN from 25 April:

It describes how a nuclear submarine(all american submarines are nuclear right now) reached South Korea. They even recorded it.

The navy itself also published it:
http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=100072

They also published the arrival of the second submarine:
http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=100221

The second sub is the USS Carl Vinson. Your second link talks about the USS Cheyenne visiting Sasebo, Japan.

Also, if we're splitting hairs, the report about the Michigan's arrival doesn't entail that it stayed there. Maybe they were trying to by sly, and this is something they didn't want the DPRK to know, for example.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

They do it all the time. Every time I flip to CNN it is "Breaking, NY TIMES reporter cites anonymous source claiming Trump did XYZ and its illegal"

"BREAKING TRUMP TO BE IMPEACHED"""

it is a shitty time to be alive in some ways. This is what this great country has been reduced to.


Also, where is the story about Hussesin the 43rd and his illegal NSA bulk collection and spying on Americans?

 

[Bloody Pulp]

Looks like the tweet concerns a public show of force with the USS Michigan, and his call involved not only that sub, but the USS Carl Vinson, too.

So my presumption is that the comment we "don't talk about subs" involves those that aren't publicly revealed to be on patrol amid tension, as part of routine drills, and in particular to the USS Carl Vinson.

The second sub is the USS Carl Vinson. Your second link talks about the USS Cheyenne visiting Sasebo, Japan.

Also, if we're splitting hairs, the report about the Michigan's arrival doesn't entail that it stayed there. Maybe they were trying to by sly, and this is something they didn't want the DPRK to know, for example.

The USS Carl Vinson is a carrier not a sub. It arrived in April.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/23/politics/uss-carl-vinson-japan-us-drills/

 

[Broken arrow]

Real journalism is dead. The days of the hard nosed unbiased ethical journalist are loooooong gone. "News" now is all agenda driven garbage meant to sway the consumer in whichever direction the current narrative requires

 

[Fluffernutter]

Sorry to change the subject, but whose job is it to keep the telephone conversations to/from POTUS secure?

 

[HOLA]

Real journalism is dead. The days of the hard nosed unbiased ethical journalist are loooooong gone. "News" now is all agenda driven garbage meant to sway the consumer in whichever direction the current narrative requires

No it's not.

All these cries of "fake news!" started coming out in November, when it was pointed out Macedonian teens profited off the gullibility of Trumpanzees by spamming fake stories that they bought. Then the term was jacked, and used to refer to any negative story about Trump, the king of fake news himself, who plants stories in the Enquirer, has fake publicists he names his kids after, and just lies.

Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward are still alive and kicking. And working. They're two of the most respected and well known journalists ever.

David Fahrenthold, who just won the Pulitzer, has been amazing recently. And recent books like Dark Money, by Jane Mayer, which took years of research, were fantastic.

They(Trump and Co.) want you to believe it's dead, so you trust nothing. So the shit they pull will be easier to get away with. He asked Comey to consider throwing journalists in jail. Preibus publicly stated they've looked into changing the 1st amendment. He's tweeted about the NYT alone about 100 times in the last 18 months. It's obvious what his motive is.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

Looks like the tweet concerns a public show of force with the USS Michigan, and his call involved not only that sub, but the USS Carl Vinson, too.

So my presumption is that the comment we "don't talk about subs" involves those that aren't publicly revealed to be on patrol amid tension, as part of routine drills, and in particular to the USS Carl Vinson.

The second sub is the USS Carl Vinson. Your second link talks about the USS Cheyenne visiting Sasebo, Japan.

Also, if we're splitting hairs, the report about the Michigan's arrival doesn't entail that it stayed there. Maybe they were trying to by sly, and this is something they didn't want the DPRK to know, for example.

Carl Vinson is a carrier. It's a giant piece of metal visible from space.
Cheyenne went to Japan, but that's basically the same area. The sea of japan, where Kim launches his missiles.
Buzzfeed "unnamed officials" are probably fake or they were misled.

Real journalism is dead. The days of the hard nosed unbiased ethical journalist are loooooong gone. "News" now is all agenda driven garbage meant to sway the consumer in whichever direction the current narrative requires

It was always the case. There are good journalists, but most papers care about making money. That can be accomplished through click bait(or the equivalent in the past, sensationalism) and being shills.
In the 30s, Walter Duranty won a pulitzer prize for covering what was happening in eastern europe. He said the Holodomor was fake and there was no starvation.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/pulitzer-winning-lies/article/4040
He was employed by the new york times.

That was before the internet or even the tv, it was much easier to lie. You had to believe in what journalists told you. Imagine how many lies we've been fed?

 

[Dolomite]

Negative. The Carl Vinson is a meat popsicle.

 

[Dolomite]

Sorry to change the subject, but whose job is it to keep the telephone conversations to/from POTUS secure?

The White House Communications Agency.

 

[xcvbn]

Submarines as a matter of law should never be talked about by public officials to anyone outside of proper security clearance. As a rule, the media should avoid talking about them.

Our nuclear subs are our greatest offensive and defensive threats. They must remain as such.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

No it's not.

All these cries of "fake news!" started coming out in November, when it was pointed out Macedonian teens profited off the gullibility of Trumpanzees by spamming fake stories that they bought. Then the term was jacked, and used to refer to any negative story about Trump, the king of fake news himself, who plants stories in the Enquirer, has fake publicists he names his kids after, and just lies.

Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward are still alive and kicking. And working. They're two of the most respected and well known journalists ever.

David Fahrenthold, who just won the Pulitzer, has been amazing recently. And recent books like Dark Money, by Jane Mayer, which took years of research, were fantastic.

They(Trump and Co.) want you to believe it's dead, so you trust nothing. So the shit they pull will be easier to get away with. He asked Comey to consider throwing journalists in jail. Preibus publicly stated they've looked into changing the 1st amendment. He's tweeted about the NYT alone about 100 times in the last 18 months. It's obvious what his motive is.

LOl you are a grade A shill

and so is @Jack V Savage and @Quipling

Sad grown men always in serious mode on an mma forum. lol