Social Evergreen State College After Meltdown: Enrollment Drops by 40%, Faculty down 20%

[Devout Pessimist]

I've already commented on this extensively in this thread, but I think the University is retarded, and that all the students engaged in the aggressive behavior should be expelled. Also, some should be probably be criminally charged. I hope he gets paid, and sanity prevails at that college but I'm not hopeful.

Weinstein just settled for $500,000 and both he and his wife resigned.

 

[cincymma79]

Good news
People aren't signing up to go there any more

 

[HomerThompson]

Weinstein just settled for $500,000 and both he and his wife resigned.

Not bad. They probably have state pensions too.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

Good news
People aren't signing up to go there any more

I do not know any parents in their right mind who would want their children to attend a social justice school. If I were a parent I would plead with my children not to become activists but to be something useful.

 

[Mookie]

Weinstein is a moron choking on the very pills he created.

He should be nailed to the cross for creating the cancer that's taken over this school.

"Man, this pissed off dog I use in my junk yard started biting me! Does it have anything to do with the fact I've taught and trained him to be a violent, pissed off dog?" - Wienstein

 

[mike sherry]

Weinstein is a moron choking on the very pills he created.

He should be nailed to the cross for creating the cancer that's taken over this school.

"Man, this pissed off dog I use in my junk yard started biting me! Does it have anything to do with the fact I've taught and trained him to be a violent, pissed off dog?" - Wienstein

he taught biology. was he teaching SJW virtues in his course? i would be surprised

 

[Mookie]

he taught biology. was he teaching SJW virtues in his course? i would be surprised

Biology is one of the stem fields currently under full assault by the SJW hivemind. That's why we have over 72 genders and live in a biologically blind world. Well, everyone but forensic anthropologists.

As for SJW's in education? They tried this in other fields, physics, cosmology, mathematics, etc. Hilarious and broken ideas of fluid dynamics that were destroyed / pushed back by Richard Dawkins.

Weinstein is a socialist shovel and any amount of time invested into his character, lectures or interviews reveals this. His hand has gleefully been involved, while the involving was safe, in the destruction of your children and degradation of culture.

 

[KillMeGod]

call the police if they are disturbing the peace and have them arrested, shoot anyone who resists

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Weinstein is a moron choking on the very pills he created.

He should be nailed to the cross for creating the cancer that's taken over this school.

"Man, this pissed off dog I use in my junk yard started biting me! Does it have anything to do with the fact I've taught and trained him to be a violent, pissed off dog?" - Wienstein

Dude, he is a biology professor. Please provide proof he trained his students in "social justice" AKA critical theory AKA postmodernism AKA cultural Marxism. Again, biology professor (a hard science) not a women's studies professor. So again, please provide proof otherwise or kindly STFU. Just because he was left of center politically doesn't mean he supported this crap.

 

[Mookie]

Dude, he is a biology professor. Please provide proof he trained his students in "social justice" AKA critical theory AKA postmodernism AKA cultural Marxism. Again, biology professor (a hard science) not a women's studies professor. So again, please provide proof otherwise or kindly STFU. Just because he was left of center politically doesn't mean he supported this crap.

Like I said in my previous post it's really, really obvious you've never heard him speak and know even less about the institution he taught at.

Watch this entire thing:

He's relying on your ignorance of his value systems to perpetuate this victim myth. Well done on helping him carry that torch to a half a million dollar bucket of gold.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Like I said in my previous post it's really, really obvious you've never heard him speak and know even less about the institution he taught at.

Watch this entire thing:

He's relying on your ignorance of his value systems to perpetuate this victim myth. Well done on helping him carry that torch to a half a million dollar bucket of gold.

I think we generally agree about such matters. I guess where we disagree is that I think Weinstein is a man of principle who took a stand I agree with, even if I don't agree with his politics generally. He has a brother who seems to be a libertarian and I think his politics may be evolving. I would prefer to bring people like him into the fold rather than be ideological purists like the new Left and drive all the reasonable people out.

 

[Mookie]

I think we generally agree about such matters. I guess where we disagree is that I think Weinstein is a man of principle who took a stand I agree with.

I find I agree with most people on most things but it's always the subtle side issues that confuse the bigger meanings.

In this case what bothers me about Weinstein is that he'd still be there servicing this thought tank if it didn't come after him directly. He got a taste of the medicine he's been selling and he instantly wanted nothing to do with it.

 

[IDL]

I find I agree with most people on most things but it's always the subtle side issues that confuse the bigger meanings.

In this case what bothers me about Weinstein is that he'd still be there servicing this thought tank if it didn't come after him directly. He got a taste of the medicine he's been selling and he instantly wanted nothing to do with it.

He's kind of like a moderate Muslim in a Saudi Arabian funded religious school that is busy churning out radical Jihadis. He is not radical and thinks the Jihadis are dangerous, but there is overlap with his beliefs and the radicals.

 

[method115]

I find I agree with most people on most things but it's always the subtle side issues that confuse the bigger meanings.

In this case what bothers me about Weinstein is that he'd still be there servicing this thought tank if it didn't come after him directly. He got a taste of the medicine he's been selling and he instantly wanted nothing to do with it.

Well sounds like he learned his lesson and is ready to stand against it. Doesn't sound like someone we should be pushing away. He made a mistake paid for it and learned from it. That's great to hear.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

I find I agree with most people on most things but it's always the subtle side issues that confuse the bigger meanings.

In this case what bothers me about Weinstein is that he'd still be there servicing this thought tank if it didn't come after him directly. He got a taste of the medicine he's been selling and he instantly wanted nothing to do with it.

I'd rather build a coalition of reasonable right-wingers, reasonable left-wingers, reasonable libertarians, reasonable moderates, etc. rather than go full retard like the regressive left and drive everybody out for not being ideologically pure at all times. His views seem to be evolving, I increasingly like what he is saying. You made a false assumption that I'd never heard him speak or wasn't familiar with his former institution and the overall movement, which couldn't be further from the truth. I've seen most of his media appearances and I follow him on Twitter. I'm also familiar with his brother Eric, whose politics seem to be more in line with my own. But let's not dwell on that. The important thing is that we have an opportunity to build a broad coalition and save/maintain Western civilization from the barbarians and their leftist useful idiots as well as the fascist far right. The sooner we nip this in the bud, the more we can lessen the far right backlash to the insanity of the far left.

 

[IDL]

I'd rather build a coalition of reasonable right-wingers, reasonable left-wingers, reasonable libertarians, reasonable moderates, etc. rather than go full retard like the regressive left and drive everybody out for not being ideologically pure at all times. His views seem to be evolving, I increasingly like what he is saying. You made a false assumption that I'd never heard him speak or wasn't familiar with his former institution and the overall movement, which couldn't be further from the truth. I've seen most of his media appearances and I follow him on Twitter. I'm also familiar with his brother Eric, whose politics seem to be more in line with my own. But let's not dwell on that. The important thing is that we have an opportunity to build a broad coalition and save/maintain Western civilization from the barbarians and their leftist useful idiots as well as the fascist far right. The sooner we nip this in the bud, the more we can lessen the far right backlash to the insanity of the far left.

He has survived the belly of the beast and has a lot of knowledge about the inner workings of these programs and the ideology and how it is indoctrinating students.

He can also reach people on the left because he's left himself.

He's valuable.

 

[Arkain2K]

Evergreen settles with professor Weinstein
SEPTEMBER 16, 2017

The Evergreen State College professor at the center of campus protests this spring will receive $500,000 in a settlement that was announced Friday.

Bret Weinstein and his wife, Heather Heying, resigned from their faculty positions effective Friday. The couple filed a $3.85 million tort claim in July alleging the college failed to “protect its employees from repeated provocative and corrosive verbal and written hostility based on race, as well as threats of physical violence,” according to the claim.

Weinstein had criticized changes to the school’s annual Day of Absence after white students who chose to participate were asked to go off campus to talk about race issues. He called the event “an act of oppression,” according to emails obtained by The Olympian. Weinstein later appeared on Fox News and wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal.

The incident led to protests and threats over allegations of racism and intolerance, pulling Evergreen into a national debate over free speech on college campuses. The campus was closed for three days in June and graduation was moved to Cheney Stadium in Tacoma.

In an email to faculty and staff sent Friday about 6:40 p.m., Evergreen officials wrote that the college will pay $450,000 to the couple and $50,000 toward the couple’s attorney fees.

“In making this agreement, the college admits no liability, and rejects the allegations made in the tort claim. The educational activities of Day of Absence/Day of Presence were not discriminatory. The college took reasonable and appropriate steps to engage with protesters during spring quarter, de-escalate conflict, and keep the campus safe,” according to the email.

In a statement, Evergreen spokesman Zach Powers said the settlement was in the college’s best interest.

“Years of expensive litigation would drain resources and distract from our mission to provide an outstanding education at reasonable cost to the veterans, first-generation college students, creative thinkers and future leaders who study at Evergreen,” he said.

Messages to Weinstein and the couple’s lawyer were not immediately returned Saturday.

Weinstein taught biology and Heying taught anthropology at Evergreen. College officials said they will work with students whose coursework is affected by the resignations.

http://www.theolympian.com/news/local/article173710596.html

 

[Arkain2K]

Student Protesters And Their Faculty Allies At Evergreen Win A Battle But Lose The War
09/17/2017

Four months have passed since the riots that brought The Evergreen State College to the attention of the world occurred and with the start of the academic year quickly approaching for the college it is well worth taking stock of where things currently stand.

The most important question, it seems to me, is whether or not the learning environment for students has improved at Evergreen because of what transpired last spring and the aftermath this summer.

What is absolutely clear is that the student protestors and their faculty supporters successfully achieved their main goals. From the outset the protesters wanted (at least) three members of the faculty and staff to leave their positions, preferably by being fired. (Will anyone ever forget the fervently aggressive chanting as students held the campus’s administration hostage: Hey, hey, ho, ho, racist faculty have got to go?)

All three are no longer in the positions they filled during the spring and two are no longer employed by the college.

Andrea Seabert Olsen was the student conduct officer, the person responsible for overseeing the student code of conduct. The protestors demanded that she be fired but provided only vague, if overly incendiary, reasons. “Seabert Olsen has shown a consistent often violent flaw in judgment when it pertains to the needs and safety of Black students, other students of color, Trans students, students with disabilities, students who have experienced sexual assault…. The students who are in the most danger in the current climate and culture of both the Evergreen campus and the United States do not view Seabert Olsen as a safe person to seek help from.” She’s no longer serving as the student conduct officer, a position she’s held for many years.

Stacy Brown was Evergreen’s chief of police. Evergreen students wanted her fired because, well, because she was the chief of police. Indeed, there was a major demonstration at her swearing in ceremony this past January with students protesting the very idea of a chief of police and of policing in general.

After a number of them assaulted the vice president for student affairs during the aborted ceremony they were brought up on charges of violating the student code of conduct and had to deal with Andrea Seabert Olsen. Chief Brown no longer works at Evergreen having resigned from her position this past August because she did not believe that in the current climate she was able to do her job of protecting the campus community effectively.

Bret Weinstein was a faculty member with expertise in evolutionary biology. He was also a vocal member of the faculty consistently calling for open debate and discussion about many issues including those centered on the campus’s “equity” initiative. Although his politics are well situated in the progressive portion of the spectrum, Weinstein’s insistence on discussion of complex faculty issues and his desire to be certain that policies ostensibly designed to help marginalized students actually help those students led to him being targeted by protestors and called both a racist and white supremacist by colleagues. The call for his firing was at the epicenter of the protests. After Chief Brown made it clear to Weinstein that his welfare was at risk if he appeared on campus and that she was not being permitted to protect him from student protestors, he was forced to teach off campus. Convinced that the college was not taking any actions to protect him, Weinstein took legal action against the college. A settlement was just reached that included a monetary payment to Weinstein coupled with his resignation.

The protestors received a bonus in this case in that Heather Heying, Weinstein’s wife and also a faculty member at Evergreen, was included in the settlement. She too resigned from her position. And she too was declared to be a racist when she expressed displeasure with the administration for not permitting the police to protect her husband.

So, in the absence of these four people, has the learning environment improved for Evergreen students? It’s difficult to see how one could reach such a conclusion. Weinstein and Heying were two of Evergreen’s most popular instructors and their offerings always had waiting lists of students hoping to enroll. Brown, herself a graduate of Evergreen, had hoped to bring an enhanced sense of community policing to the campus and to break down barriers between students and campus police. Seabert Olsen has worked tirelessly on campus assisting students in need while adjudicating complex cases. Beyond the campus, she’s devoted her life to helping disadvantaged and abused young women find a way to move forward successfully.

While it is absolutely true that no one on a college campus is indispensable, it is difficult to see how the loss of these four individuals improves the Evergreen environment. Yes, some will say, indeed, some have said, that with their departures Evergreen has four fewer white supremacists in its midst. But those are people who seem to view anyone who disagrees with them as a white supremacist.

Make no mistake about it, racism exists all around us and white supremacy has been and continues to be responsible for many terrible things. But, while Evergreen is far from perfect, pretending it is a hotbed of racism is both disingenuous and dangerous. Labelling virtually everyone as a white supremacist trivializes the concept and emboldens those who are the embodiment of white supremacy.
Disagreements about policy, about politics, and about tactics can be healthy – especially on college campuses.

The departure of Weinstein and Heying from Evergreen has another critically important downside for the college and its students. The lesson to be learned by students, faculty and staff alike is that viewpoints differing from the loudest voices on campus will not be tolerated. Question those loud voices, or simply call for a discussion, and you will be shunned, attacked and ultimately ex-communicated.

As one faculty member has written, “The scorched earth style of leadership by the college administration is disheartening for many of us.” When voices are lost, homogeneity increases and critical thinking, the hallmark of the liberal arts, is diminished.

Four months later, what about the leaders of the protest? The answer to this question reinforces the lesson about the dangers of questioning the campus’s loudest voices. The student who played the largest role in the protest, the one who organized the taking of administrative hostages and who was seen patrolling the campus with a baseball bat, was rewarded for those efforts by being hired by Evergreen to serve as a “Presidential Equity Advisor” over the summer. The faculty member who was seen berating colleagues with foul language, who, on Facebook, asked “Could some white women from Evergreen come and collect Heather Heying’s racist ass,” and who regularly and publicly called Weinstein a racist, remains in her faculty position.

As the new academic year begins at Evergreen, student protestors and their faculty allies got much of what they wanted – and the college has been weakened as a result. In addition to the losses outlined above, student numbers are significantly down leading to a major budgetary crisis. This is the classic case of winning a battle but losing the war.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59bebbc4e4b06b71800c3a9f

 

[Madmick]

Evergreen settles with professor Weinstein
SEPTEMBER 16, 2017 9:41 AM

The Evergreen State College professor at the center of campus protests this spring will receive $500,000 in a settlement that was announced Friday.

Bret Weinstein and his wife, Heather Heying, resigned from their faculty positions effective Friday. The couple filed a $3.85 million tort claim in July alleging the college failed to “protect its employees from repeated provocative and corrosive verbal and written hostility based on race, as well as threats of physical violence,” according to the claim.

Weinstein had criticized changes to the school’s annual Day of Absence after white students who chose to participate were asked to go off campus to talk about race issues. He called the event “an act of oppression,” according to emails obtained by The Olympian. Weinstein later appeared on Fox News and wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal.

The incident led to protests and threats over allegations of racism and intolerance, pulling Evergreen into a national debate over free speech on college campuses. The campus was closed for three days in June and graduation was moved to Cheney Stadium in Tacoma.

In an email to faculty and staff sent Friday about 6:40 p.m., Evergreen officials wrote that the college will pay $450,000 to the couple and $50,000 toward the couple’s attorney fees.

“In making this agreement, the college admits no liability, and rejects the allegations made in the tort claim. The educational activities of Day of Absence/Day of Presence were not discriminatory. The college took reasonable and appropriate steps to engage with protesters during spring quarter, de-escalate conflict, and keep the campus safe,” according to the email.

In a statement, Evergreen spokesman Zach Powers said the settlement was in the college’s best interest.

“Years of expensive litigation would drain resources and distract from our mission to provide an outstanding education at reasonable cost to the veterans, first-generation college students, creative thinkers and future leaders who study at Evergreen,” he said.

Messages to Weinstein and the couple’s lawyer were not immediately returned Saturday.

Weinstein taught biology and Heying taught anthropology at Evergreen. College officials said they will work with students whose coursework is affected by the resignations.

http://www.theolympian.com/news/local/article173710596.html

It should be the full $3.85m, but I understand why Weinstein settled. Unlike those asshole administrators, he understands that taking that money hurts the students, and the quality of their education.

The only reason he is taking the $450K is as a symbol for the fact he was grossly wronged, and so that those students with open minds (or citizens around the country) might see that. It's also to eases the conservative mind, I think, to see justice served in that symbolic dimension. Now that same university is publicly denying the symbolism of that.

#deepsigh

What a really good guy. I do not care for his politics, but he's a genuinely good human being.

 

[sub_thug]

I've been hearing about "white supremacists" more and more lately from SJWs. I guess the term "racist" has gotten stale from overuse.

Unfortunately, it's a situation of the boy who cried wolf. I think a lot of us (society) are just immune to hearing it now because we hear it used all the time. It certainly obscures real racism from the faux stuff though.