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Nope.
Pedo?
Nope.
But that is not really true, is it? If you look at South Korea and Japan they have the strongest tradition, pride and family values from all industrialised countries.
And they also have the lowest birth rate or among them. What they do have in common with western countries is their economic standards.
That is really the most important factor by far when it come to birthrate. The economic situation.
The richest countries in the world Monaco and Singapore also happen to have the lowest birthrate.
I don't know enough about South Korea and Japan to know what they are doing there, but it's possible they are fine with lowering their population levels in anticipation for automation.
I definitely acknowledge that there are pressures in play in modern developed economies (such as the difficulty to have a full time parent because of cost of living), but it isn't the whole story.
But either way, you can still see the difference between religious and non-religious groups within the context of developed Western nations and see that there is a difference in birth rates. Also, look at Israel with a very high birth rate.
Japan and South Korea a desperately trying to bring up their birth rates. Especially Japan is in some real trouble because they have a rapidly ageing population.
That already start to cause some real problems in the farming industry. People work way past their retirement age.
I think it comes down to that in independent countries where you don't need children to survive because of social security.
The most women simply don't want more than 1 or 2 children. For economic and personal reasons.
But I do agree you could probably bring it up a bit with better policies.
But the days of women having 3 or more kids are over. Those will be the exception.
Europe is already gone and past the point of return. In truth, it hasn't played any kind of a role on the world stage since 1945. All the "fight" was taken out of the citizens at that point.
The goal of the average European man nowadays, is to live out his pathetic life relatively undisturbed. That's all that most men expect out of their life. To do a minimal duty which may satisfy their conscience enough, in order to be content with neglecting all other responsibilities.
It is no surprise that the leadership of the present, irresponsible and emotionally detached as they are when it comes to real-world problems, despite desperately juking the statistics elsewhere to avoid having Europe exposed as the bubble that it is, fail miserably at their most important task, which is to ensure that the citizens are reproducing and raising further generations to respect European values.
It's a fucking horrible idea.
What's the alternative? Put an end to homosexual/gender-bender propaganda, emphasize traditional relationships and gender roles between men and women, emphasize the value of traditional marriage and its greater purpose of raising healthy children, emphasize the reproductive rather than recreational role of sex, decrease the number of abortions, de-emphasize the use of contraceptives, focus resources on families rather than trying to turn every single individual into an optimal, isolated productive unit, etc.
It's not rocket-science people. If freaking Vladimir Putin was able to turn around a dying-off, post-Soviet Russian population, to reproducing at a great rate, what's our excuse?
its not just a more stuff thing. actually, thats probably never what it is.
what if you have 30k in student loans and dont feel like you can start a family, until its really too late to do so?
what if you have a career that you love, and having kids could jeopardize that?
what if you want to be able to read a book, or go to the movies without an act of congress?
some people may just like simple lives, and in an industrial economy, kids will not keep your life simple.
some people couldnt see their lives without kids, and thats fine too. different strokes for different folks.
When is the last time you have been in Europe and which countries have you visited?
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10306/childless-europe
Europe’s Childless Leaders Sleepwalking Us to Disaster
"There have never been so many childless politicians leading Europe as today. They are modern, open minded and multicultural and they know that “everything finishes with them”. In the short term, being childless is a relief since it means no spending for families, no sacrifices and that no one complains about the future consequences. As in a research report financed by the European Union: “No kids, no problem!“.
Being a mother or a father, however, means that you have a very real stake in the future of the country you lead. Europe’s most important leaders leave no children behind.
Europe’s most important leaders are all childless: German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte and the French presidential hopeful Emmanuel Macron."
“Europe is committing suicide. Or at least its leaders have decided to commit suicide”, wrote Douglas Murray in The Times. “Europe today has little desire to reproduce itself, fight for itself or even take its own side in an argument”.
The problem is that a "modern industrial economy" will collapse into a heap if the population is not being actively replaced.
Such a charitable manI should head over to Europe and help them by having unprotected sex with as many women as possible. I won't even charge them for my services.
Also Theresa May.
I guess she was left out for political reasons, no? Or is she just not important?
Rubbish. Stalin, Leopold II, Pinochet and Mao all "won".
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10306/childless-europe
Europe’s Childless Leaders Sleepwalking Us to Disaster
"There have never been so many childless politicians leading Europe as today. They are modern, open minded and multicultural and they know that “everything finishes with them”. In the short term, being childless is a relief since it means no spending for families, no sacrifices and that no one complains about the future consequences. As in a research report financed by the European Union: “No kids, no problem!“.
Being a mother or a father, however, means that you have a very real stake in the future of the country you lead. Europe’s most important leaders leave no children behind.
Europe’s most important leaders are all childless: German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte and the French presidential hopeful Emmanuel Macron."
“Europe is committing suicide. Or at least its leaders have decided to commit suicide”, wrote Douglas Murray in The Times. “Europe today has little desire to reproduce itself, fight for itself or even take its own side in an argument”.
which explains the allowing of young immigrants.
you may say this is a bad idea too, but whats the alternative?
Yea that sounds like an empty, soulless life. Existence is probably a better word. No I don't want to start a family because my career is more important. Yikes, I can't even imagine how full of regret and misery that person would be if they make it to old age. Someone who values the ability to go see the latest Hollywood blockbuster over having a family is pretty messed up to me. Not that you can't go watch movies without your kids anyway - I haven't found life with children to be so unbearably difficult and all-encompassing like you're portraying here. Life with children can be very simple. Just look at mine. I mean anyone who reads my posts knows that I'm simple, but my life is as well. This is all just my opinion, as you say it's different strokes for different folks. I'm just disturbed by how many people here are the kind of folks who would rather dedicate their lives to consumerism and materialism than have a family. Most people I know that are my age (I turn 35 this year) don't have kids and waste all their money on bullshit they don't need. In a few more years most of them will realize how empty their lives are, then have an autistic kid in their early 40s and try keeping up with him while they're already old and grey and miserable. I have 2 kids and I'm trying hard for more because they're the greatest blessing I've ever received in my life.
This attitude should be the exception, not the rule it is quickly becoming. It's definitely telling that we're ignoring basic biology and the very thing that drives us so we can "watch a movie and read a book", or because it's an inconvenience.
RIP family values, we hardly knew ye.
Well for one don't promote the very ideology which does the most to lower the birthrate: feminism.
lol
industrial economy = lower birthrate regardless of the culture or ideology you find in that industrial economy