EU needs migrant labour reform - Macron

[WhitebeltXL]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41036909

French President Emmanuel Macron has warned that the EU risks breaking up if it fails to reform the rules on temporary foreign workers.
He was speaking in Romania, one of the ex-communist countries whose low wages and social charges make their workers cheaper to hire for temporary work in France and other richer EU nations.
Mr Macron said "some political and business circles" in the EU were trying to promote "social and fiscal dumping".

By recruiting from low-wage countries in Central and Eastern Europe, some firms avoid making payments into costly state health and welfare schemes. The building industry is a key focus of complaints about imported EU workers in France.
France has long pressed for reform of the EU's Posted Workers Directive, which allows firms to send their cheaper workers to another EU nation and keep them on existing employment terms, not those of the host country.

The EU plans to hold a summit in October to address the tensions over the directive.
Mr Macron is on a European tour aimed at rallying support for reform, but Poland and Hungary suspect French protectionism which, they fear, would undermine the EU's freedom of labour principle. France wants to make 12 months the maximum period that a worker can be "posted".

Austria backed his call for reform, and in Bucharest his Romanian counterpart, Klaus Iohannis, also said "the directive needs to be improved". But Mr Iohannis added that many eastern Europeans wanted to work in western countries, and their interests had to be respected.

Of course, he is right. Richer EU countries are being flooded with low skill migrants from poorer nations, increasing unemployment and decreasing living standards for natives.

The reform that needs to be pushed is the oft-talk about "Two Speed EU", because a system that treats all countries as equals will never truly work. Far too many countries right now are living off the financial clout of Germany, Britain and France's ever increasing contributions. Greece aren't equal to Germany, and Romania aren't equal to France etc., But any attempt to change the current system will hurt Romania, Poland etc., and would have very little incentive to accept proposals that would leave them undermined and with very little say in their own countries, and give the impression of a 'Divided EU', which completely contradicts the foundations on which it was built.

 

[lecter]

another, related article:
‘Schengen is NOT working' Shock as EU golden boy Macron turns AGAINST key bloc principle
EMMANUEL Macron hit out at the European principle of free movement in a scathing speech in which he said Schengen is “not working well” .

On a visit to Bucharest, Emmanuel Macron urged Romania to take part in discussions about reforming the controversial passport-free movement across most of the bloc.

The Schengen zone, which is an area of free movement between country borders, has been blamed for migrant chaos in Europe and a heightened terrorist threat.

The French president said: “You’ve been having the right to request entry into the Schengen area for years now, and you have recalled this, and I know how important this is for you.
“I have no ideology in this respect, I am totally open to this subject.

“But I have to be honest, the Europe of the Schengen area is not working well and, of course, we can’t be happy about it.” The Romanian President Klaus Iohannis said that Romania was “already acting de facto as a responsible state of the Schengen area, taking part in the joint efforts to strengthen the Union’s external borders”.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...gen-zone-free-movement-Romania-Klaus-Iohannis

 

[WhitebeltXL]

another article:
‘Schengen is NOT working' Shock as EU golden boy Macron turns AGAINST key bloc principle

Did you know David Cameron took proposals similar to these (regarding free movement of people combined with Schengen) to the EU around 4 years ago? Of course, Cameron was a spineless turd, so it'll be interesting to see if Macron has enough backbone to get something done.

 

[9mm]

What an absolute clusterfuck. Screw globalism.

 

[Stoic1]

Racist.

 

[WhitebeltXL]

What's interesting in these recent developments is that Le Pen was seen as the threat to the EU's existence, and Macron was the establishment EU candidate, but it seems Macron may prove to be a far more savvy and devious foe for Juncker. Though of course Macron seems more of a threat to the current status quo within the EU, rather than the structure itself.

Macron is definitely pro EU, but in a pro European culture approach that might lead him to butt heads with the EU hierarchy. It's a promising start that he sees the damage the current system can cause for his own citizens.

 

[Rod1]

Lets see how brave these Eastern European nations are after this.

 

[Slippery Kantus]

What a bigot!

 

[WhitebeltXL]

Emmanuel Macron wins eastern European support for EU labour reforms

French President Emmanuel Macron on Wednesday won the support of two central European states for a reform of European labour market rules he sees as a “betrayal of the European spirit” and fuel for populism across the continent.

The topic has emerged as one of the deepest east-west faultlines in the EU, with western countries such as France strongly supportive of the commission plans, while many central and eastern European states — which see the planned changes as nothing more than veiled protectionism — are vehemently opposed.

“I think that Europe should protect [its citizens], and in that way the European integration project should get a new meaning. Ultimately our citizens want to free themselves from the pressures of globalisation,” he said ahead of a summit with the Austrian, Czech and Slovak prime ministers.

I think it's clear that the opposition for these proposals will come from Poland and Hungary, who are obviously looking out for their own interests. I think it's telling that Macron has elected not to visit those countries in his tour of Eastern/Central Europe. A Poland/Hungary rejection of these reforms could realistically force Macron's hand to call for a so called "Frexit", or at least the threat of one to force the EU's hand. Tensions between Hungary/Poland and the EU are already fraught, this potential confrontation could add even further fuel to the fire.

https://www.ft.com/content/2e49fbcc-8817-11e7-bf50-e1c239b45787

 

[goldennirvana]

As if it matters. Keep obsessing over the economy, see where that gets you. What Europe is in for in the coming decades will make the economy utterly insignificant. Europe will barely have an economy by that time.

 

[Rod1]

As if it matters. Keep obsessing over the economy, see where that gets you. What Europe is in for in the coming decades will make the economy utterly insignificant. Europe will barely have an economy by that time.

Economics have been the driving force of humanity since forever, the mongols didnt invaded China for shit and giggles.

And there is a reason why the Romans were trying to conquer lands as far as Persia before trying to conquer central Europe.

 

[Bnow]

Lets see how brave these Eastern European nations are after this.

Seem they'll be pretty fine and dandy with out the whole issue of million of undocumented savages running around pillaging the streets raping murdering ex.

 

[Rod1]

Seem they'll be pretty fine and dandy with out the whole issue of million of undocumented savages running around pillaging the streets raping murdering ex.

Right, and some million unemployed individuals and companies going under.

 

[Bnow]

Right, and some million unemployed individuals and companies going under.

You just described Spain Greece Italy, and more and more each and every day france.

 

[Rod1]

You just described Spain Greece Italy, and more and more each and every day france.

Yes, in part because companies can undercut these workers by paying EU citizens from poor countries third world wages.

 

[Rod1]

You just described Spain Greece Italy, and more and more each and every day france.

Spain is also making strides to eliminate unemployment.

 

[Bnow]

Yes, in part because companies can undercut these workers by paying EU citizens from poor countries third world wages.

As EU citizens they have to pay they whatever the legal minimum there is.

Spain is also making strides to eliminate unemployment.

lol as much as success and the mexicans striving to eliminate crime and corruption.

 

[Rod1]

As EU citizens they have to pay they whatever the legal minimum there is.

Read the article.

lol as much as success and the mexicans striving to eliminate crime and corruption.

At least is a step forward, not backwards.

 

[GSP_37]

I saw today on iPad News that Macron spent $20k or $30k of taxpayer money on makeup so far in three months. What in the fuck?

 

[Goonerview]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41036909

Of course, he is right. Richer EU countries are being flooded with low skill migrants from poorer nations, increasing unemployment and decreasing living standards for natives.

The reform that needs to be pushed is the oft-talk about "Two Speed EU", because a system that treats all countries as equals will never truly work. Far too many countries right now are living off the financial clout of Germany, Britain and France's ever increasing contributions. Greece aren't equal to Germany, and Romania aren't equal to France etc., But any attempt to change the current system will hurt Romania, Poland etc., and would have very little incentive to accept proposals that would leave them undermined and with very little say in their own countries, and give the impression of a 'Divided EU', which completely contradicts the foundations on which it was built.

The EU never made any sense.