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For a really novice heel hooker, what order of instructionals do you guys suggest?
Craig Jones to develop an effective heel hook game that works. Then Cummings for troubleshooting finishes, defense, and counter offense. If you’re more into theory and a complete understanding of the game then check out Danaher or Rob’s sets.For a really novice heel hooker, what order of instructionals do you guys suggest?
This going to be much easier to go through than jhons...
The leg knot, that’s a string position if you can get to it, never understood why isn’t high level guys going for it...
If you're a novice then it probably was easier for you. I think the issue with a lot of folks that had been into heel hooking for a while is they were doing lots of match study online, watching breakdowns, getting instructionals from Craig Jones and Rob Biernacki, and going to seminars from the DDS guys if possible. So I think Danaher's style is very good for an in-person classroom environment or someone that is just getting started. Like, if someone could start over and learn leg locks all over again from the beginning I think his set is very good for that.I don't really get why everybody is saying that Danaher's DVD is unbearable to listen to
I was a real novice when it comes to leg locks so I kind of needed all the explanations he was giving. I also loved the structure of the DVD, with the clear separation about entering, putting the guy to the hip, getting a good control and then ''breaking''. Also the clear separation between straight, cross and reverse position.
Maybe if you already know a bunch about the subject and the fact that he really likes to rename everything and that he doesn't use all the terminology known (saddle, 411, the knot...) it can become annoying, but the techniques are very legit all the same.
This going to be much easier to go through than jhons...
The leg knot, that’s a string position if you can get to it, never understood why isn’t high level guys going for it...
If you're a novice then it probably was easier for you. I think the issue with a lot of folks that had been into heel hooking for a while is they were doing lots of match study online, watching breakdowns, getting instructionals from Craig Jones and Rob Biernacki, and going to seminars from the DDS guys if possible. So I think Danaher's style is very good for an in-person classroom environment or someone that is just getting started. Like, if someone could start over and learn leg locks all over again from the beginning I think his set is very good for that.
Also for what it's worth the Grappler's Guide stuff is not in the right order.Craig Jones as some stuff on the grapplers guide and I was trying to watch and understand his stuff. But there was so many things that I didn't understand that it was kind of useless to watch them.
After that 9 hour video marathon with Danaher and some drilling at the gym on cross ashi entries I rewatched the Craig Jones content on the subject and I understood a lot more stuff about is unique entry style and half butterfly X guard strategy. Now I can use a lot more of the little tweaks that guys like Jones can bring out.
Thanks man.Craig Jones to develop an effective heel hook game that works. Then Cummings for troubleshooting finishes, defense, and counter offense. If you’re more into theory and a complete understanding of the game then check out Danaher or Rob’s sets.
Craig Jones to develop an effective heel hook game that works. Then Cummings for troubleshooting finishes, defense, and counter offense. If you’re more into theory and a complete understanding of the game then check out Danaher or Rob’s sets.
I don't think it's a bad position but I do think the 411 and outside ashi are objectively stronger. And even at the high levels right now the outside heel hook is getting difficult to finish. I think there were less than 5 heel hooks at ADCC and they were all inside heel hooks. And Gordon Ryan had 2 of them. They aren't a magic bullet anymore and defense against the positions is really good. I'd consider myself a solid purple belt in heel hooks and I usually feel pretty calm and safe in the leg knot. I'm not saying it's an eay position to get out of but my preffered order of closed circuit leg positions to have to defend would be leg knot, then the outside ash and the 50/50 are basically tied, and then the 411.
I wouldn't advise them to a beginner. @JustTheTip may be a novice heel hooker (in his words) but he is not a novice grappler. He's had a lot of years training and I I think he knows enough about grappling and how to move where he'd be able to pick things up fine from that dvd. A couple of upper belts I train with got Craig's set and only Craig's set and have done a good job of building respectable heel hooks games off just working that and then brainstorming at open mat.craigs leg lock dvd is pretty advanced u really think a beginner should do it? he doesnt even expliain how the positions work he already assumes everyone knows all the new positions but goes into set ups to them
Good question. I'm thinking now and I'll work through it at no gi this week. I think I just don't get my second leg trapped. They have to reap and thread over the close leg and under the far leg to really get the control they need to isolate the leg for the finish. Once that reaping leg comes over they're starting to turn your hips and I focus my grips immediately on their leg/s with c-clamp grips and keep my far leg that isn't being reaped as far away from their reaping leg as possible while turning out. As they reap they're turning your hips and you just have to do a back step pass motion with your free leg before they can thread under it.How do you get out of the leg knot? Once there, it’s quite hard to get out, you are trapped basically, do you have a vid on the escape?
Good question. I'm thinking now and I'll work through it at no gi this week. I think I just don't get my second leg trapped. They have to reap and thread over the close leg and under the far leg to really get the control they need to isolate the leg for the finish. Once that reaping leg comes over they're starting to turn your hips and I focus my grips immediately on their leg/s with c-clamp grips and keep my far leg that isn't being reaped as far away from their reaping leg as possible while turning out. As they reap they're turning your hips and you just have to do a back step pass motion with your free leg before they can thread under it.
I'll work it this week and post back with some thoughts. I'm trying to picture what I do in my head here.
Digitsu replied and said they won’t do that switch camera angle again. Good people over there.I'm really impressed with Eddie's teaching so far.
Very clear and to the point.
Really like the emphasis on specific concepts/cues within a position (keeping the knee internally rotated/pinky tendon in pec).
The only criticism so far is that I find it disorientating when they switch camera angles.
I want this set.
How does Digitsu work? Can I download it to an iPhone?
That's what I'm most excited to try and why I've stayed away from outside ashi recently. It's not a big deal when people don't do this but I like how Eddie references past matches to explain why he makes certain adjustments. When showing that re-counter to the leg drag he mentions the Tanquinho matches and how it helped him refine and adjust the position. he shows what he used to do and why he changed it. The technique would be great either way but it's those extra things that make me appreciate learning from athletes that are also good teachers.Ok. Just finished watching it.
I haven't really explored leg locks, so I can't compare this with other products but I thought it was great.
There's a really good counter to the knee heavy/leg drag style counter to the SLX/50-50.
I used to go to that a lot, but I don't think I will anymore.