Real money transactions. Take for example shadow of war. How the ever loving fuck does that game need loot boxes? There is nothing to keep up with or any reason to even offer them. It's straight up preying on people's psychology who are struggling in a solo endeavor. Furthermore it adds in the secondary layer that makes it far worse in that the "post game" for the real ending is an ultra grind that try's to squeeze out those loot boxes from people.
It's bullshit and the reason I recommended all my friends and acquaintances not buy the game. I was individually directly responsible for about 20 copies of that game being sold the first time around and the opposite this time around thanks to loot boxes.
Shit like this is the reason it's hard to take gamers complaints seriously sometimes.
"Need" doesn't apply. You don't need games. But you enjoy them. Loot boxes are the same principle. Some people Don't give a shit, while others like having the option.
Fucking "preying on people's psychological a behavior"? Goddamn it. Stop. That's some of the dumbest shit ever spoken. If someone can't resist buying a goddamn loot box they have serious issues.
Sounds like you haven't played it and you're going off the tweets that were released at launch by people who hadn't played the game. There's no "real ending" afterword. There's a tiny epilogue that's fairly meaningless. There's no "grind" it's just typical busywork after the main game is finished. Similar to the Arkham games.
You are living in such denial about what is going on is sad. They hire physiologist to help them understand how to do get people to buy this crap. Why the hell are you so hell bent on defending this practice.
Defending what practice? Every time you've quoted me you've set up a ridiculous straw man position. loot boxes have been around for ages. How is it that shadow of war is the first one to "prey" on people? That makes zero goddamn sense. Loot boxes gonna loot box. Shiny things inside. Big flash when it opens. This is how it's been for years. Why aren't people complaining about valve and their seasonal loot boxes that you need to purchase a key to open? The double standards are ridiculous. Shadow of war isn't the first game with loot boxes, and it isn't the last.
Shit like this is the reason it's hard to take gamers complaints seriously sometimes.
"Need" doesn't apply. You don't need games. But you enjoy them. Loot boxes are the same principle. Some people Don't give a shit, while others like having the option.
Fucking "preying on people's psychological a behavior"? Goddamn it. Stop. That's some of the dumbest shit ever spoken. If someone can't resist buying a goddamn loot box they have serious issues.
Sounds like you haven't played it and you're going off the tweets that were released at launch by people who hadn't played the game. There's no "real ending" afterword. There's a tiny epilogue that's fairly meaningless. There's no "grind" it's just typical busywork after the main game is finished. Similar to the Arkham games.
Keep living in denial then and keep being part of the problem
So what you are trying to say is fuck people who have a gaming addiction?
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This is pretty clear what they're doing to anyone who works in the industry. They want to maximize their initial sales numbers to show to investors. Once the trade off is worth it(Probably 1-2 months in), they will enable the gamble boxes again because:
EA is going to royally fuck over the average gamer who doesn't have a clue how the industry works on this. This is about as deceptive as it gets. I hope that clarifies things…. but please do not let this extensive clarification distract you from the fact that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer’s table
- Everyone who was on the fence will have bought the game by now
- You can't refund the game at this point
- The news will have died down, and if new articles docome out, it won't be as relevant
- They will already have good numbers to show investors
Edit: wow I didn't expect this type of response! I feel such a sense of pride & accomplishment!
All you do is avoid my points and throw out insults. I doubt that'll change anytime soon.
If you're so concerned about the mental well being of gamers, why single out Shadow of War for its loot boxes and not the dozens of other game that have had loot boxes over the years? Why arent you complaining about Valve putting out limited edition seasonal loot boxes that can only be unlocked with a purchased key? Should loot boxes be illegal or something? IS this actually what you're saying?
As far as gamers with game addictions, maybe developers should just stop making games entirely, right? Otherwise they're just feeding into the psychosis of the mentally ill. So loot boxes alone arent the problem, the existence of games at all is the culprit. I've heard of gaming addictions. Never once heard of loot box addiction.
Businesses want you to buy their shit. It's up to you to not buy it.
All you do is avoid my points and throw out insults. I doubt that'll change anytime soon.
If you're so concerned about the mental well being of gamers, why single out Shadow of War for its loot boxes and not the dozens of other game that have had loot boxes over the years? Why arent you complaining about Valve putting out limited edition seasonal loot boxes that can only be unlocked with a purchased key? Should loot boxes be illegal or something? IS this actually what you're saying?
As far as gamers with game addictions, maybe developers should just stop making games entirely, right? Otherwise they're just feeding into the psychosis of the mentally ill. So loot boxes alone arent the problem, the existence of games at all is the culprit. I've heard of gaming addictions. Never once heard of loot box addiction.
Businesses want you to buy their shit. It's up to you to not buy it.
Defending what practice? Every time you've quoted me you've set up a ridiculous straw man position. loot boxes have been around for ages. How is it that shadow of war is the first one to "prey" on people? That makes zero goddamn sense. Loot boxes gonna loot box. Shiny things inside. Big flash when it opens. This is how it's been for years. Why aren't people complaining about valve and their seasonal loot boxes that you need to purchase a key to open? The double standards are ridiculous. Shadow of war isn't the first game with loot boxes, and it isn't the last.
Way to completely miss the pointShit like this is the reason it's hard to take gamers complaints seriously sometimes.
"Need" doesn't apply. You don't need games. But you enjoy them. Loot boxes are the same principle. Some people Don't give a shit, while others like having the option.
Fucking "preying on people's psychological a behavior"? Goddamn it. Stop. That's some of the dumbest shit ever spoken. If someone can't resist buying a goddamn loot box they have serious issues.
Sounds like you haven't played it and you're going off the tweets that were released at launch by people who hadn't played the game. There's no "real ending" afterword. There's a tiny epilogue that's fairly meaningless. There's no "grind" it's just typical busywork after the main game is finished. Similar to the Arkham games.
EA now has learned the lesson to never interact with the community and never reveal your intentions, like Activision. That way everybody knows what they're gonna get but you never have that moment of outrage like thisSo what are they gonna do about the players who already paid to win? They just gonna be allowed to dominate from here until whenever they balance this shit out?
Solid achievement for the gaming community though. Not everyday EA doesn't tell everyone to go fuck themselves.