Drug Testing Now Hurts More Than Helps The Sport

Drug testing in MMA has gotten completely out of control. It was implemented to improve the business but I just see main event after main event being ruined because of even "potential anti-doing violations." Drug testing has taken precedence over the actual sport. It's like the tail is wagging the dog. Drug testing was brought in to help - not hurt the sport.

It's been about 20 years since Josh barnett was stripped of his title but at least they held the fight and stripped him afterwards. These days they cancel the fight. It's been 20 years and more cards are being ruined because of drugs than were 10 or 20 years ago.
dumb as fuck
 
Some are also overlooking the health dangers of some PED's.
We were always going to experience some pain when testing was increased but it will remove the cheats and saves lives.
 
If testing is ruining the sport (UFC is doing that all by itself.) then it doesn't need to be a sport.

Also, I'm sorry, but JDS is not a top fighter anymore, and he hasn't been one for a long time. JDS getting removed from a card is hardly a big deal. Anyone who cares about that needs to raise their standards.

MMA has become a mediocre kickboxing sport where every aspect of the fight has been watered down due to easily bored fans, and a pro wrestling style obsession with the "show." On top of that, top fighters are playing the Conor game, and stalling big fights.

Also, Pride was exciting to fans because of its pro wrestling style production, and the fact that the company was spending mafia money like a drunken teenager. It's model was never sustainable.

For every "good" fight in Pride, there was a terrible one, and a fixed one.

The UFC needs a brand change, and a new fan demographic. Good luck with that.

Agreed on PRIDE having some epicpy horrible and boring fights. People only remember the legendary wars with the top guys. Completely forgetting the insanely boring grappling heavy matches they'd have sometimes, and not having a cage wall to scale up, only magnified the incredibly boring grappling matches that would be stalled in the center of the ring, with the bottom positioned fighter having almost no chance of getting up from the top positioned fighter.

PRIDE had some of the most unwatchable and boring matches in MMA history. And there were a ton of them, usually involving 1 dimensional wrestlers, or BJJ guys like Mario Sperry, and the long list of PED abusing Brazilians they had on the roster.
 
No one on the top with money to pay for the good stuff will get caught. It doesn't help.
There is no ' good stuff' anymore
The pharma companies inform the testers of new shit comming out now..its over
Hence why records seem to no longer get smashed every other week in sports.

Why do twats keep posting about this anyway? Its NOT going back to the way it was ..period
Most People and fighters want cleaner sports anyway!
 
Guys today Are fulltime fighters. They train full time, And the difference between a win And a loss is minimal. A 37 year old doesn't have enough testosterone, And gets injured too often to be able to compete with a 27 year old. It is just not physically possible. It is sad, but that is how it goes.

The illusion of the clean top ten fighter that is so talented And has an extreme natural testosterone production that he can be competitive with the roiders is nice, but it is not real.
So skills and fighting knowledge is just a myth? This isn't some kind of video game where everything is pre determined by hard stats. You are setting up hypotheticals that really doesn't exist where there are real life examples where you are wrong.
 
There is no ' good stuff' anymore
The pharma companies inform the testers of new shit comming out now..its over
Hence why records seem to no longer get smashed every other week in sports.

Why do twats keep posting about this anyway? Its NOT going back to the way it was ..period
Most People and fighters want cleaner sports anyway!
There are otherways to beat testing without just new chemicals. Good read: https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/5jvyx4/how_fighters_can_use_peds_and_pass_usada_testsone/
 
No, you said "PEDs abuser fighter ruining the life of a good clean fighter is what ruins the sport." Lesnar couldn't have been "wrecking competition" because he'd been retired from MMA for 5 years! He has another job. Then he came back to fight at UFC 200. That did not ruin the sport or even the card. Lesnar being on the card actually saved UFC 200 from disaster. Hunt's life was not ruined by Lesnar. He made more money that night than he ever has or will in one fight.

Vitor was an asset to the sport. What "life of a good clean fighter" did Vitor actually ruin?

Finally, what is your proof that "drugs ruin the sport"? When was there a time when there were no drugs in MMA and it was clearly superior to The MMA of the last 25 years? The fact is, it's never been proven that a drug free MMA is superior and makes more money than what we've had in the UFC or had in PRIDE because there has never been a successful MMA promotion which was drug free.
Incorrect hunt woulda made more from a win against a clean lesnar

Bispings eye says hello

B.s mma is
There are otherways to beat testing without just new chemicals. Good read: https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/5jvyx4/how_fighters_can_use_peds_and_pass_usada_testsone/
Well if its on reddit it must be true
 
Incorrect hunt woulda made more from a win against a clean lesnar

Bispings eye says hello

B.s mma is

Well if its on reddit it must be true
Incorrect hunt woulda made more from a win against a clean lesnar

Bispings eye says hello

B.s mma is

Well if its on reddit it must be true
So you didn't read it? Your loss I guess...
 
Just look at how many pro wrestlers are dead in their 40s. Steroids+ concussions are a bad mix.
 
No one on the top with money to pay for the good stuff will get caught. It doesn't help.
What's this 'good' stuff I hear about. Olympic level people got caught, Silva, Jones .. Brock .. you are telling me Brock can't afford the good stuff?
 
no, stupid cheating scumbags, who dont learn, hurt the sport, not the system that exposes them!
 
I could care less if people are on trt etc, but understand why it has to be regulated.
 
Drug testing in MMA has gotten completely out of control. It was implemented to improve the business but I just see main event after main event being ruined because of even "potential anti-doing violations." Drug testing has taken precedence over the actual sport. It's like the tail is wagging the dog. Drug testing was brought in to help - not hurt the sport.

It's been about 20 years since Josh barnett was stripped of his title but at least they held the fight and stripped him afterwards. These days they cancel the fight. It's been 20 years and more cards are being ruined because of drugs than were 10 or 20 years ago.
What you should be saying is that cheating fucks are ruining mma.
 
Love how the TS lays the blame of cheaters at the feet of the tests exposing them.

Derpogical.
 
So skills and fighting knowledge is just a myth? This isn't some kind of video game where everything is pre determined by hard stats. You are setting up hypotheticals that really doesn't exist where there are real life examples where you are wrong.
Don't be silly. Skills And fighting knowledge is obviously Very important, but it doesn't help much to know how to win a fight if your physique prevents you from doing it. Nobody with average or low testosterone levels will win an mma fight In the UFC. However, if you can get your T-levels up to a 25 year old, it is a different story.
 
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Fighters be taking a headache pill and then couple days later testing positive for banned substance. fuck usada.
 
Agreed on PRIDE having some epicpy horrible and boring fights. People only remember the legendary wars with the top guys. Completely forgetting the insanely boring grappling heavy matches they'd have sometimes, and not having a cage wall to scale up, only magnified the incredibly boring grappling matches that would be stalled in the center of the ring, with the bottom positioned fighter having almost no chance of getting up from the top positioned fighter.

PRIDE had some of the most unwatchable and boring matches in MMA history. And there were a ton of them, usually involving 1 dimensional wrestlers, or BJJ guys like Mario Sperry, and the long list of PED abusing Brazilians they had on the roster.

oh god ... ofc pride had boring matches just like UFc lolz most of my friends only watch UFC because of the blood ... and most of the time they find it boring because its either a stand-up fight or gay wrestling ... lol
 
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