Down Under Leg Attacks - Craig Jones DVD/ ON Demand

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  1. vcmmafan

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    DVD 1:
    -intro
    -leg lock philosophy
    -leg pummeling concepts
    -single leg x position
    -countering the running escape
    -exposing the heel
    -countering the foot knock
    -outside to saddle
    DVD 2
    -finishing from the saddle
    -finishing from the saddle #2
    -running man defense
    -countering the foot push
    -countering the kick off defense
    -reverse x guard to saddle
    -reverse x guard when opponent is on knees
    -reverse x guard push over
    DVD 3
    -breaking the triangle from 50/50
    -breaking the crossed feet from 50/50
    -criss cross 50/50
    -Staying safe in single leg x
    -staying safe in outside leg position
    -taking the back from single leg x and outside leg position
    -estima lock from single leg x
    -safe options from outside leg position
    -staying safe in saddle
    -saddle outside counter
    -taking the back from running man escape
    DVD 4
    -guillotine to heel hook
    -toe hold to heel hook
    -kimura to heel hook
    -heel hook from closed guard
    -knee shield attacks
    -knee shield attack #2
    -50/50 knee bar to saddle
    -heel hook entry from standing
    -de la Riva
    -flying triangle
     
  2. vcmmafan

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    I can say that (so far) it's keeping my attention better than Modern Leg Lock Forumula
     
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    BJJ_Rage Gold Belt

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    I’ve been wating for this... awesome
     
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    I was wondering when someone would put this on film.
     
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    I know leg locks aren't new but it seems to be the new craze/strategy in nogi matches to attack legs from odd angles and during transitions, where you least expect it.
     
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    Dogstarman Old man jiu jitsu

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    Well, to be fair, at the high levels catching a submission during transition is probably the best way to attack. Sure there are guys who grind away at a sub but those odd angles and transitions are the time to attack.
     
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    I'm noticing that. I didn't notice things like that before but at the higher levels and as you rise up in rank in your gym, the higher belts tend to catch you in submission during transitions. There doing less of grinding away at one position,tiring you out then submitting you.

    In high level nogi competitions, why worry about passing someone's guard, when you can start attacking legs right away and turn it into a leg lock battle game, this seems to be the DDS and Ryan Gordon strategy.
     
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    i want to check this dvd out, i might cop that.
     
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    Dogstarman Old man jiu jitsu

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    What happens with leg attacks. Really strong guard players start worrying about their feet and are more vulnerable to passing. Once you attack those legs you can start getting leg drags off those guys. I've started my leg attacks and even just attacking ankle locks people open their guard. It opens the game to a whole new level.
     
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    I was rolling with a buddy of mine who is tall and lanky where i was the opposite, short and stocky; he has really good guard defense. I tried passing his guard, grew frustrated, so I went for an ankle lock that the coach showed a month ago, I got the tap. I still think KNOWING how to technically pass the guard is very important, but, my goodness it felt good just to be able to fall back for the leg lock, get the tap, and end match right there, LOL.
     
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    Leglocks are best understood as a high-low exchange (perhaps high-low-back depending on your game), where your goal is to make the opponent choose which he will defend. So having good passing will open up your leglocks, and good leglocks will open up your passing. For example, the highest percentage pass I know is to drop for a standard outside ankle lock, pass the foot over to the cross side, then cup the knee and come up for a leg drag.
     
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    I don't think this is their strategy actually. Seems like there's some 10th Planet guys and other no-gi specialists who do this, but a big reason for the DDS success is they make you pick your poison between back/kimura/legs and will patiently work to open whichever attack family is available. Gordon Ryan especially has turned into a pressure passer this year, which was key to his success at ADCC.
     
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    It's not really just relying on the leg lock as the end all be all technique. You need to be a good or decent guard passer to be effective with this strategy. If the guy is stubborn about the guard and doesn't defend the legs then it's an ankle lock. If he starts to defend the legs then the guard pass starts to open up. @trustdoesntrust has said it more eloquently above.
     
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    This is the best leg lock instructional that I've ever seen.

    Fully support and endorse it.

    Well worth the money.

    This is dead on. Danaher just posted the other day that their major attack families are the back, the legs, the front headlock, and the kimura. And none of them are as effective alone as when they are able to be combined with each other. I don't think this is anything no one knew before but you can't just focus on the legs and be successful.

    Gordon Ryan actually just made a point in his match with Yuri Simoes to go to the 4-11 and then go right back to the knee slice pass.
     
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    Definitely feels good.

    For what it's worth it is not effective at all once you get to maybe brown belt or so to be able to leg lock without being able to pass the guard or attack the upper body.

    If I'm not pressuring the guard, then you know I'm likely going for a leg lock, and I will never get it. If I can actually pressure your guard then I can switch to the legs more efficiently.

    What the Danaher guys have done is successfully implement basically 4 systems for nogi and they all weave together: leg control, kimura control, front headlock control, and back control.

    So the leg control can give you subs or can take you onto the back, or help you sweep or pass. The kimura control can give you various subs (armbars, triangles, etc.) or put you onto the back. From the back you have RNCs or you can go to armbars, reverse triangles, or back to the kimura control. The front headlock can give you guillotines, darces, anacondas, or help you pass, sweep, or give you back control. You can even go from the front headlock control or the kimura control back to the leg control.

    The point is that they focus on limb (leg/arm/neck) control and they attack everything. And the guys that have only tried to copy their leg attacks and aren't as successful.

    Gordon Ryan and Oliver Taza are my 2 favorites out of their camp to watch put the whole package together.
     
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    It gives me a headache trying to fathom all the steps. I know they drill the shit out of everything but it's really mind blowing. I'm just barely figuring out the leg control pass to back or whatever. Just crazy all the paths they can take.
     
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    Oliver Taza is the craziest one to watch. He may not be as good as Gordon or Tonon yet or Cummings yet. But when I watch his matches I think he ties everything together in a way that seems the most complete out of all of them.

    Check his 4 matches out from the Matrix Jiu-Jitsu Invitational on Youtube. Insane transitions that guy has.
     
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    I would add that the real highest level leglockers seem to have refined the intraleg positions as positions in themselves. So, while amateurs like us try to flow between lower, upper, and back attacks, guys like Craig Jones and DDS also see that flow within their leg attacks, moving from leg to leg and from high (kneebar) to low (heel hook).
     
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    I went through disc 1 & 2. Going to watch them again. I happy with it so far.
     
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    Good point.

    One thing Craig talks about is not getting overly attached to a leg once you get it.

    A big thing he does is timing from moving from one leg to the other. So if you have SLX/ashi on one leg and someone is trying to kick you off or thread and push you off, if you switch to ashi on the other leg or even the 411 on the other leg (like he did at EBI) he says that ideally you can time their kick so that you can apply the heel hook pressure as you're switching legs. And that's how he got that one guy to tap in the semis before he could even connect his hands.

    I probably explained that badly but he shows it on the instructional in detail
     
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