Double-Feature: Executive Decision & Air Force One

Discussion in 'Mayberry Lounge' started by Guestx, Feb 13, 2018.

?

Choose your preferred terrorists-on-a-plane film!

  1. Executive Decision

    60.9%
  2. Air Force One

    39.1%
  1. Guestx

    Guestx Guest

    Just got done watching these two back-to-back. I had seen them both before, but only once, when they were originally released to theaters.

    As you'll remember, Executive Decision was released in 1996. Air Force One came out just one year later in 1997. The plots of the two are amazingly similar considering how close together they came out. It's almost like an Olympus Has Fallen / White House Down situation.

    Executive Decision actually ended up being better than I remembered. It's a pretty enjoyable thriller with some inventive action scenes and several genuinely tense moments. I also was surprised by how strong the cast was, with Kurt Russell, Steven Seagal (when he was still a respectable performer), John Leguizamo, Halle Berry and David Suchet.

    Air Force One I guess was about on par with what I remembered. Of the two films, I got the impression that it was the one that took itself the most seriously. It also features a very solid cast, and I had totally forgotten that Gary Oldman was even in this shit. But it also felt a bit more formulaic and featured some pretty sketchy effects at times.

    All in all, I think I actually enjoyed Executive Decision the most. It just seemed to be the more creative and fun movie, as a whole. My only complaint with it is that it runs just a bit long. At 2 hours 16 minutes, it's probably about 16 minutes longer than it really needs to be.

    Who else has seen these films? How do you think they compare? Which do you think is the more enjoyable watch?
     
    Pferd and shinobimusashi like this.
  2. shinobimusashi

    shinobimusashi Green Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2010
    Messages:
    1,197
    Likes Received:
    1,300
    Executive Decision for me, I found a cheap DVD copy of it last Summer and enjoyed it. I remember we went to see it in theaters when I was like 12, my dad was a huge mark for Seagal when I was a kid and he was so shocked that Seagal died in the movie. I remember when we were leaving the theater my mom and dad were talking about it as if Seagal really died in real life or something. <Lmaoo>

    I think there has to be some correlation with actors dying on screen and their acting career dying as a result. Seagal tanked after he did the job in Executive Decision, then there was Emelio Estevez in Mission Impossible. Any others?
     
    HomerThompson and ufcfan4 like this.
  3. Guestx

    Guestx Guest

    LOL, that's hilarious.

    I do remember it being genuinely shocking at the time that he didn't make it though. And with his ego, I'm still surprised that he agreed to that.

    Hmm, that's an interesting thought.

    I'm not sure any other examples come to mind, but you're right about Seagal. It was the beginning of the end for him. Pretty much the only good movie he made after Executive Decision was Exit Wounds, and that was only after making a string of disappointments.
     
  4. Johnson

    Johnson Green Belt Platinum Member Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2017
    Messages:
    1,105
    Likes Received:
    3,053
    Location:
    Virginia
    I wasn’t a fan of air force one. I didn’t hate the movie or anything; I wouldn’t say I liked it either.

    Executive Decesion tho I’ve seen numerous times. I just find it a fun movie. Made me laugh when after I watched it the last time that one of the army guys was Father Mukada from Oz. Basically any actor from Oz, when I see them in another movie/tv show, is the person from Oz. Specially Ryan O’Reilly.
     
    Guestx likes this.
  5. Guestx

    Guestx Guest

    Yeah, I agree with you that Executive Decision is a more fun, more entertaining movie. If they had just edited it down a little bit then it would be a nearly-perfect popcorn movie experience.

    I never did see Oz, but here's another interesting connection regarding the military guys: One of those dudes is played by BD Wong, who was the lead InGen scientist guy in Jurassic Park and Jurassic World.
     
  6. Johnson

    Johnson Green Belt Platinum Member Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2017
    Messages:
    1,105
    Likes Received:
    3,053
    Location:
    Virginia
    That’s Father Mukada, man. ;)

    Yeah, if you ever watch Oz you’ll notice so many people who are in other things. Like when you died in Oz you ended up in the Wire(Which came on after Oz when it was playing) and like half the people ended up in Law and Order shows.
     
  7. Guestx

    Guestx Guest

  8. Guestx

    Guestx Guest

    Oh, well shit, I guess that dude gets around then.
     
  9. BisexualMMA

    BisexualMMA Don't Put My Name in the Name of Steroids!

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2010
    Messages:
    32,395
    Likes Received:
    53,614
    Location:
    Super Fight League Corporate HQ
    I preferred Executive Decision, but I haven't seen either in quite a long time. I was somewhat disappointed with Air Force One.
     
    TheRuthlessOne and Guestx like this.
  10. Guestx

    Guestx Guest

    Surprised at the lack of interest here. These were both popular movies when they were released.
     
  11. Guestx

    Guestx Guest

    John Leguizamo talks about being assaulted by Steven Seagal:

     
  12. Cubo de Sangre

    Cubo de Sangre Steel Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2014
    Messages:
    31,112
    Likes Received:
    27,990
    Location:
    Hell

    I found them both forgettable.
     
  13. Guestx

    Guestx Guest

    Do you tend to have problems with your memory in general?
     
  14. Cubo de Sangre

    Cubo de Sangre Steel Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2014
    Messages:
    31,112
    Likes Received:
    27,990
    Location:
    Hell

    None that aren't mostly fixed with drugs and alcohol.
     
    Guestx likes this.
  15. Guestx

    Guestx Guest

    I found both to be notable films, both due to their quality as well as the fact that they were popular upon release and performed well financially.
     
  16. Cubo de Sangre

    Cubo de Sangre Steel Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2014
    Messages:
    31,112
    Likes Received:
    27,990
    Location:
    Hell

    I'm just going off my own reaction to viewing them. Neither was bad, but I found them to be underwhelming. Wouldn't watch either again. Although I'm pretty sure I enjoyed the Kurt Russell film more.
     
    FierceRedBelt and Guestx like this.
  17. FierceRedBelt

    FierceRedBelt Red Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2012
    Messages:
    8,599
    Likes Received:
    6,838
    Location:
    United States
    It's been twenty years but I enjoyed Executive Decision quite a bit.

    Our honorable sensei sacrificed himself for the greater good.
     
  18. Guestx

    Guestx Guest

    You should rewatch it. I went into it last night not expecting much but it was a pleasant surprise to see how well it held up.

    As for Seagal, you just know they approached his ass with the offer to do the movie and it was like:

    Producer: Okay look, but here's the thing . . . you die.

    Seagal: Wait . . . what?! Hell no! I'm the star! I'm in command!

    Producer: No, no, you see, you die . . . but it's a very heroic death. You sacrifice yourself for the world. Like Jesus.

    Seagal: . . . go on.
     
  19. FierceRedBelt

    FierceRedBelt Red Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2012
    Messages:
    8,599
    Likes Received:
    6,838
    Location:
    United States
    Sensei: You know, you're not the first person to point out the obvious parallels between Jesus' life and my own.
     
    Ikuza, BisexualMMA and Guestx like this.
  20. IndyCovaHart

    IndyCovaHart Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2003
    Messages:
    17,800
    Likes Received:
    13,792
    Starring Steven Seagull... for five minutes. Lol
     

Share This Page