Does Black Beast prove Tyrun wrong about racist UFC fans

[Toad Frogan]

Best Sherdog post in history.

 

[Threetrees]

holy fucking shit this thread

 

[tommi462]

People don't like Woodley because of his shite personality. Nothing more, nothing less.

This. I guess the race card makes Tyron just feel better about being disliked. "They only dislike me because of my skin color".

Among the many black fighters I root for, I root for both Jon Jones, the coked up eye poker, and Rumble, the yoga mat throwing domestic abuser. If I was some sort of white supremacist looking for any excuse not to like a black fighter, I wouldn't really have to look that hard with these two.

I won't even bother denying being racist. I probably am to some degree. But skin color has nothing to do with why I don't like Tyron Woodley, or why I like Wonderboy.

 

[J180]

And people still love him.

Jordan is no longer a big enough factor media wise (In terms of coverage) for people to care like they would have before, and he knows this which is why he stayed silent. Him speaking now does not get the same amount of extreme press it would have before. And also its not like he's out here speaking out left and right, he made one big statement last year and nothing else since really.

What I said stands, someone said he was outspoken and loved. And that's a lie he was not outspoken for decades when he was on top and at the height of his fame.

 

[Coolidge]

Irrelevant. I'm aware that Robert Kennedy had the FBI keep tabs on Dr. King and tap his phone. How does any of that negate that the American Civil Rights leaders wisely and effectively targeted the conscience of the American majority rather than turning to violence to achieve their aims.

Your views, at least as stated, are incoherent.

 

[GORETAURO]

No Jordan was not a "free speaking black man", he actually caught flack for decades for the exact opposite from many black people. Jordan never ever spoke out on black issues, he tucked his tail and hid from ever commenting on anything controversial that would hurt him in non black people eyes. Just in recent times has Jordan finally started stepping out on such issues.

So you are calling Michael Jordan a coward???

 

[MMABrooklyn]

You have it ass-backwards. Congress took action when large majorities of whites in most states had begun changing their views. Remember, Congress was Dem majority at that time, and the Dems had always been the Jim Crow party. They changed their minds because even in the American South, their constituents were demanding action. The Civil Rights Act was an effect, not the cause of the sea change in racial views held by Americans.

What books have you read on this subject?

The parties switched demos. If the country sentiment changed, then how come Black children had to be escorted by law enforcement to school?

You got the sanitize version of U.S history.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

The parties switched demos. If the country switched, then how come Black children had to be escorted by law enforcement to school?

The funny thing about the parties switching demo, is that as soon as it happened, racial violence and white supremacism in the South declined rapidly. Under Democratic protection, the KKK flourished. Once the South went republican, their numbers dwindled and they are far less potent than they were under Dixiecrat administrations. The long standing relationship between the Democratic party and teh KKK is something that is brushed under the carpet these days, ubt one simply cannot understand the history of the Jim Crow era South properly while ignoring it.

Your example about black children needing to be escorted to school is a bit of a red herring. Change doesn't happen all at once, and not everyone changes. Either way, the integration of black students into public schools began a decade prior to the Civil rights Act.

Your view of the civil rights movement is cynical and jaded. Yes, institutionalized American racism was ugly. And yes, the process of changing that was ugly at times too, and yes the federal government did help in that process. But there's also plenty of beauty in that same story.

 

[MMABrooklyn]

No Jordan was not a "free speaking black man", he actually caught flack for decades for the exact opposite from many black people. Jordan never ever spoke out on black issues, he tucked his tail and hid from ever commenting on anything controversial that would hurt him in non black people eyes. Just in recent times has Jordan finally started stepping out on such issues.

This guy realality is incoherent. Jordan was publicly quite for 3 decades.

 

[MMABrooklyn]

The funny thing about the parties switching demo, is that as soon as it happened, racial violence and white supremacism in the South declined rapidly. Under Democratic protection, the KKK flourished. Once the South went republican, their numbers dwindled and they are far less potent than they were under Dixiecrat administrations. The long standing relationship between the Democratic party and teh KKK is something that is brushed under the carpet these days, ubt one simply cannot understand the history of the Jim Crow era South properly while ignoring it.

Your example about black children needing to be escorted to school is a bit of a red herring. Change doesn't happen all at once, and not everyone changes. Either way, the integration of black students into public schools began a decade prior to the Civil rights Act.

Your view of the civil rights movement is cynical and jaded. Yes, institutionalized American racism was ugly. And yes, the process of changing that was ugly at times too, and yes the federal government did help in that process. But there's also plenty of beauty in that same story.

Keep it short. Violence became more covert because Black people started to stock up on firearms. Americas first gun laws was written to restrict Black American freedoms. Civil rights movement was way more detailed than the cookie cutter version you're regurgitating.

I bet you don't even know what the initial goal of the Clvil rights movement?

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

Keep it short. Violence became more covert because Black people started to stock up on firearms. Americas first gun laws was written to restrict Black American freedoms. Civil rights movement was way more detailed than the cookie cutter version you're regurgitating.

I bet you don't even know what the initial goal of the Clvil rights movement?

1. Yes, black people being finally allowed to bear arms was a tremendous advance in civil rights. Today's gun control movement is one of the biggest anti-civil rights campaigns of the last 50 years or so and has it roots in keeping guns out of the hands of blacks.

2. I'm not at all presenting a cookie cutter version of the civil rights movement. I'm saying it was an enormously complex and very human political process which showed the good, bad, and ugly of human beings, but where the good mostly triumphed. For example, one thing that seems almost entirely forgotten about the civil rights movement was how highly religious and not just political it was. Malcolm X was very influential as a Nation of islam preacher and King was an outspoken Christian.

Aren't you the same guy who was claiming that the US simply changed it's mind about one of it's most deep-seated internal problems because it made them look bad during the Cold War? See, reducing it down to mere foreign policy, now that's cookie cutter.

 

[Coolidge]

No Jordan was not a "free speaking black man", he actually caught flack for decades for the exact opposite from many black people. Jordan never ever spoke out on black issues, he tucked his tail and hid from ever commenting on anything controversial that would hurt him in non black people eyes. Just in recent times has Jordan finally started stepping out on such issues.

No, you see, you simpletons have a very narrow definition of what 'speaking out' means. Thomas Sowell 'speaks out', but he isn't advocating Afrocentrism, victimhood, and grievance-mongering. 'black issues' What you call 'black issues' are really just the fantasies of liberal minded morons within the black community. You might be surprised to know that every black person doesn't share your bullshit ideology. If they're not 'speaking out' on something, it could be because they recognize it's a non-issue.

 

[MMABrooklyn]

1. Yes, black people being finally allowed to bear arms was a tremendous advance in civil rights. Today's gun control movement is one of the biggest anti-civil rights campaigns of the last 50 years or so and has it roots in keeping guns out of the hands of blacks.

2. I'm not at all presenting a cookie cutter version of the civil rights movement. I'm saying it was an enormously complex and very human political process which showed the good, bad, and ugly of human beings, but where the good mostly triumphed. For example, one thing that seems almost entirely forgotten about the civil rights movement was how highly religious and not just political it was. Malcolm X was very influential as a Nation of islam preacher and King was an outspoken Christian.

Aren't you the same guy who was claiming that the US simply changed it's mind about one of it's most deep-seated internal problems because it made them look bad during the Cold War? See, reducing it down to mere foreign policy, now that's cookie cutter.

1. Modern gun control is its own issue.

2. It was religious but the Civil rights movement also had Athiest and non religious Titans.

3. I didn't say it was only foreign policy, but I did say that the civil right act wasn't the result of majority of the white population changing its mind.

 

[MMABrooklyn]

No, you see, you simpletons have a very narrow definition of what 'speaking out' means. Thomas Sowell 'speaks out', but he isn't advocating Afrocentrism, victimhood, and grievance-mongering. 'black issues' What you call 'black issues' are really just the fantasies of liberal minded morons within the black community. You might be surprised to know that every black person doesn't share your bullshit ideology. If they're not 'speaking out' on something, it could be because they recognize it's a non-issue.

Thomas speak about his community to people outside his community. He hasn't spoken to his own people in over two decades.

Jordan sure did speak out went that free Jordan promo slowed down.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

1. Modern gun control is its own issue.

Is it? Then why does the modern gun control movement always focus on towns with large black populations like Chicago and Washington DC? Why do they so often go after guns like cheap handguns that are more often owned by blacks than rifles and shotguns?

2. It was religious but the Civil rights movement also had Athiest and non religious Titans.

Sure, there were admirable exceptions, but as a rule it was very religious, which is a big part of why it was so effective. America, like it or not, is a rather religious country.

3. I didn't say it was only foreign policy, but I did say that the civil right act wasn't the result of majority of the white population changing its mind.

Really? Because you kept coming back to it again and again and offered no other explanation. And let's face it, yours is a hilariously bad explanation for the motivations for change during the civil rights era:

What made the civil rights movement(somewhat of) an success was not appealing for fellow white american consciences, it was the U.S looking like giant hypocrites promoting freedoms of the West vs. Communism

The awareness was that if the U.S is viewed has hypocrites that most of the world would side with the communist philosophy which would lower the U.S standing on the worlds stage.

 

[MMABrooklyn]

Is it? Then why does the modern gun control movement always focus on towns with large black populations like Chicago and Washington DC? Why do they so often go after guns like cheap handguns that are more often owned by blacks than rifles and shotguns?



Sure, there were admirable exceptions, but as a rule it was very religious, which is a big part of why it was so effective. America, like it or not, is a rather religious country.




Really? Because you kept coming back to it again and again and offered no other explanation. And let's face it, yours is a hilariously bad explanation for the motivations for change during the civil rights era:

1. Chicago, DC, etc are in the North and skew more liberal. Liberals believe in more gun control. That goes for all white countries to all Black countries.

2. America is a religious nation. Use what's available.

3. I also mention Black people weren't going to take b.s anymore. Black Americans are domestic. See, if you don't know much on a subject, then stop talking as if you do.

Many historians believe that the cold war helped the civil rights movement to bloom and become greater as the U.S had a lot of international pressure to stop the movement, the U.S had to face criticism for not providing equal rights for all its citizens and many civil rights activists became victims of McCarthyism which was wide spread during that time.

Although the U.S succeeded in influencing many countries, the domestic racial struggle going on in the U.S started to degrade it reputation in those countries as the Soviet Union used the racial issue to persuade the third world countries against the U.S,

While the U.S was being pressurized by the world to reform its attitude towards African American citizens, Renee Romano, a chair in the department of history and a history professor in the Oberlin College and Conservatory, believes that many civil rights activists took advantage of the situation and used it to voice their opinions and their concerns to the world. Romano provides an example of Robert Williams, the iconoclastic head of the Monroe, North Carolina branch of NAACP. When two young African American boys were sent to jail for kissing a white girl on the cheek, Williams turned the incident to an international scandal and won the boys’ release (Romano 36). This incident shows that the U.S was embarrassed by the racial discrimination against the African Americans and due to the cold war the domestic issue was now being discussed by everyone and used against the U.S by the Soviet Union.

https://rampages.us/univ200kc/2015/11/09/the-impact-of-the-cold-war-on-the-civil-rights-movement/

Your pic did not show up, but maybe you should focus less on posting Dr. King pics and put effort into brushing up on your civil right studies.

 

[J180]

No, you see, you simpletons have a very narrow definition of what 'speaking out' means. Thomas Sowell 'speaks out', but he isn't advocating Afrocentrism, victimhood, and grievance-mongering. 'black issues' What you call 'black issues' are really just the fantasies of liberal minded morons within the black community. You might be surprised to know that every black person doesn't share your bullshit ideology. If they're not 'speaking out' on something, it could be because they recognize it's a non-issue.

Wrong, because the statement he released last year he basically acknowledged his fault of always staying silent on such issues, he titled it "I Can No Longer Stay Silent".

And again the person I quoted said Jordan was outspoken, HE WAS NOT. Even non black issues, or none race related things. He was not a outspoken person. Shit he was not even a out spoken person like he was on the NBA court, once he got in front of reporters he became more PC and was protected by reporters on how he truly was.

 

[olimpicus]

Was that clever? Every UFC what?

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