Does anyone think Stipe beats Prime Cro Cop? | Page 7

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  1. Final Say Red Belt

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    If that's true, it's because Cro cop was trying to prove something. Who knocks people out with headkicks in sparring? He flew to your country to help you to train for a fighter far less talented than himself, andyoure throwing knock out head kicks?

    As someone who participated in combat sports since I was young, Cro cop Cannot win a fight with Stipe by striking. He also can't stop a takedown. He has a punchers(kickers) chance and that's all
     
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    Crocop by KO
     
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  4. The bad boy Double Yellow Card

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    Yeah they fought 3 times in 1 night, pretty obvious they were both hurting. thats the whole point of the tournaments, proving your mettle. both times they fought was already when bernardo was beginning to decline from permanent injuries and depression in his career anyway.

    Bernardo had a more impressive K-1 resume in his prime than cro cop did. cro cop didnt kill giants like bernardo did in his prime. beating bernardo once when he did and losing to him in that state doesnt impress me when considered contextually
     
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    Can Stipe use the same special sauce Mirko did during his Pride career?
     
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    lawler has evolved ,hunt has takedown defense and sub defense now, werdum can strike now, and bisping took advantage of a guy underestimating him... pretty obviuos to me that this sport has evolved in 20 yrs completly. it baffles me how anyone cant see that. 20 + yrs ago i boxed and did muay thai, there wasnt a single grappling club where i live. there is now 3-4 reputable mma gyms and very few traditional martial art dojo's. i call that changing with the times,or "EVOLUTION" lol
     
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    Stipe has no GOAT qualities. Hes just hitting his prime, when others are fading/injured. Quite like Weidman and soon to be Woodley.
     
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    Yeah, his decades of success in Kickboxing, K-1 and Pride were just a fluke! Don't be ridiculous.
     
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    prime stipe ? wtf ,are you thinking. prime stipe is the now
     
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    Have you watched the fights?
    Cro Cop couldn't even stand on his leg when he entered the ring.
    But ok.

    Cro Cop didn't kill giants?

    He beat 3 K-1 Grand Prix champions: Aerts, Bonjasky, Hunt and 6 runners up / 2nd place : (Le Banner, Bernardo, Musashi, Feitosa, Sefo, Londt) and won K-1 Grand Prix against Londt and Zhuravlev who are now top 3 fighters in Glory rankings in HW and LHW.

    Also many people who know kickboxing belive that Cro Cop won against Hug and 2nd Bonjsky fight but they got the decision because that were their retirement fights. He was certanly robbed against Hug in Switzerland.
     
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    Dude, Gonzaga beat a prime Cro Cop lol
     
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    those recent K-1 gp's dont compare to the old guard. nice try.

    He beat Aerts, he didnt murder him like bernardo did.

    Like I said his resume in his prime is a clear notch above cro cops. One could argue that bernardo was the best kickboxer in the world from 1995-1996, given the repeated and undisputable decimations of GOATs like Hug and Aerts.

    Also one person made the argument that Bernardos win over cro cop doesnt count because he was injured, but thats exactly what happened to bernardo in the 96 GP, eating defending champ aerts leg kicks for 3 rounds and losing against hug even though he besmirched hug twice before
     
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    Bernardo is probably the best K-1 fighter that no one talks about. He had very solid boxing & some serious leg kicks. It is so sad that he got HIV & committed suicide. RIP.
     
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    I'm not talking about 20 years ago. Since this is about Cro Cop I was under the assumption that we are talking about the mid 00s when he was at his peak vs now. I agree that there has been evolution but about 80% of it occurred during the 90s. The idea that Pride era Fedor, Wand, Nog, Shogun, Barnett, Cro Cop, Kharitonov, Rampage, Hendo etc were a bunch of unskilled unathletic cavemen compared to todays guys (which includes older versions of many of those guys) is just silly. Not to mention the likes of GSP, BJ, Hughes, Chuck etc in the UFC back then.

    Shit, its been nearly a decade since Cain, JDS and Brock arrived in the UFC.
     
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    Gonzaga damn near killed CroCop

    How the hell would he stand a chance against today's Champion?
     
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    Send today's champion in ring where his advantage in reach and movement is not that big and then let's see.
     
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    No one gives a shit about his kickboxing accomplishments. It doesn't matter. We're talking about MMA
     
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    LHK at some point for Stipe.
     
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    Gonzaga got a title shot off the Cro Cop win and proved he wasn't even top 10 material when Randy beat his ass. Almost all of the guys he beat in Pride were either LHW's or top 20 HW's. Cro Cop legit has only beaten 2 top 10 HW 's while in Pride. Herring and Barnett.
     
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    Personally I'd favour Cro Cop, but it'd basically be a toss up. If Stipe can be nearly stopped by Overeem, no reason Cro Cop couldn't do the same. And if Cro Cop could be one punched by Randleman, also no reason why Stipe couldn't do the same. Any HW fight with good strikers can turn pretty quick.
     
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