does anyone really think some fights would change outcome if they were in a ring?

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    Or if in a ring, they were in a cage.

    I always hear things like "yeah but if that fight took place in a ring, the other guy would win".

    No he wouldn't. The stage of the fight is not so significant that it could change the outcome of a fight.

    Anderson Silva would beat Forrest Griffin in a cage, or in a ring.

    Fedor would have lost to Werdum in a cage, or in a ring, or in an aquarium, or in a box.
     
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    Lol I never understood that logic.
     
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    How the fuck do we know?

    Sometimes 2 guys fight using the same structure (ring, octagon) and the result is different.

    Example: Bisping/Rockhold
     
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    So true... Showtime would have done his kick in a ring too..
     
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    I've never sides with that logic lol
     
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    How do you guys not understand?

    Rings are a square and have corners.

    You can corner someone in the corner and it is also easier to get someone to back into the ropes in a ring.

    In the Octagon you can constantly circle away.

    For this reason, tall lanky counter strikers like Conor, Anderson and Chuck excel in the Octagon. They can keep the fight at long range easier.

    The ring usually favors short, stocky strikers like Wand, Cro Cop and Fedor because they can trap their opponent easier and fight at close range.


    That is just striking.

    There are differences in wrestling up against the fence but I will let someone else explain that.
     
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    what is your point
     
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    Any match won by wall and stall in a cage wouldn't be effective in a ring....and there have been a few right off the top of my head.....

    RDA/Alvarez would likely have a different outcome in a ring.

    Clay guida would have had no career....
     
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    i disagree. you can hold people against ropes too.
     
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    Sure, those fights may have been the same either way but fights like Wanderlei vs Franklin where Franklin constantly moved away would be totally different in a ring. Wanderlei would have had an easier time cutting Rich off in a ring and fighting at close range
     
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    This ^

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    You can't hold guys against the cage in a ring. Good strikers can cut their opponents off in a square ring. The ring favors strikers, and a circular or octagon cage favors wrestlers. It's a very different environment and that's why the fights were more exciting in PRIDE
     
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    Well, mate, got your back on this one...


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    As a once delusional Cro Cop fan I can confirm this
     
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    2 CLOSE TO ME!

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    Right.

    Does fighting in the ring rather than a cage automatically change the result of the fight? No.

    Could it play a factor? Absolutely.
     
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    Yes, absolutely. The cage favors grapplers way more. There is a reason Couture was mediocre in the ring, even losing to guys like Inoue and Valentijin in the ring and was a GOAT in the cage.
     
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    couture mediocre in the ring? what do you base this on?

    he had more fights in the cage, of course he did better in the cage. if he fought in a ring in the ufc he would have looked good in a ring too
     
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