Do amateur records mean anything to you?

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  1. Parang

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    They kind of do to me, especially if hes already the more experienced guy in a matchup.
    I also put lots of respect to anyone who lost their first fight, cause it means if they lose again theyre not gonna quit. It makes me wish I could see Khabibs sambo record and Joannas muay thai record. I remember some other organization tried to market Jerrell Hodge as "The Man Who Killed The King" cause he KO'd Cody Garbrandt in their last amateur fight. Does any of that mean shit to you guys
     
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    Lomachenko and Rigo having over 300 amateur bouts but being billed as 0-0 in their debuts against some dude is pretty fucked imo. I think amateur bout records should be in brackets for the first couple of fights imo.
     
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    Literally fuck no
     
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    Ask CM Punk.
     
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    Not really. It could be like Kramer dominating the dojo.

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    Yes, only because I’m 1-3 and highly ashamed of myself.
     
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    Hespect for admitting that.
     
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    With the girls yes, many of them have very extensive ammy careers mainly as its harder for them to get pro fights

    People slate the girls who are like 2-0 while ignoring that they may have ten or more amateur fights. Most guys after a couple of amateur fights get paid even if it's only $50
     
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    Only if it's extraordinarily positive or negative. If someone has literally no amateur record or an awful losing record, I will be suspect. If they have an extremely impressive amateur record, I may have high hopes for them. Anything in between doesn't matter much to me. That's just me and my opinion, though.
     
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    That's a good point. JJ and Valentina have very impressive amateur records, for example. JJ fought like 70 times before her first MMA fight. There are many other examples, too.
     
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    No.

    There's plenty of amateurs fighting in the UFC right now.
     
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    I agree, lots of WMMA fighters are complete amateurs/soccer moms and made it into the UFC.
     
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    Lots of the best fighters dont have an amateur record.
    Dog you shouldnt be ashamed, youve seen what happens to even the best. Howd you get your win?
     
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    Is that the only difference between pro and amateur, is that if you get paid they call it pro? I guess thats fair if so, but kinda misleading lol
     
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    Yes and no. Depends on against whom and doing great in some regionals mean a lot more then others.
     
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    Yes , pay is the main definition for pro (and standard 3x 5 minute rounds).

    Mma needs more structure, my “pro” fight is really an amateur fight in my opinion
     
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    Fuck that man if you trained and competed be proud. What's your fighting style?
     
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    First off respect to you, I live near the great lakes, never seen that organization but that mustve been crazy and good job man
    But Id agree with what you say about structure, I have an issue with main events being 5 rounds, that means fame changes the way you train? Fuck that, you mean to tell me that Renan Barao fights three rounds cause he isnt as marketable, whereas youre going to stick someone else in for 5 rounds because theyve created enough social media buzz to maim event? Thats just wrong. I see the other way too though, maybe you cant stick everyone in for 5 rounds cause you dont have enough time, or maybe theyre worried it will be too boring and that people will play it too safe if its 5 rounds. But there should be some consistency. Maybe all fights inside the top 15 should be 5x5's but maybe it should only be title fights. But i dont think it should be only main events, thats wrong.
     
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