Did Conor really face the best at FW?

He beat Denis f*cking Siver for a title shot. Let that sink in. Then he used his mouth to talk his way for a fight with Aldo. Guys like JDS and Ferguson went on a higher ladder or longer streaks and basically clear up the division just to fight for the belt.
 
Unheralded Truth said:
He ducked Cub. They have never fought.
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I don't think anyone has ever ducked Cub. Conor let his short armed buddy Artem bang it out with Cub for 5 rounds and he couldn't even finish him.
 
the MMA math is strong in this thread.
 
Conor breaks the guard in first round and Frankie goes asleep . To think otherwise is crazy .
 
acannxr said:
4/06/13 | #27 Marcus Brimage (Striker)
8/17/13 | #67 Max Holloway (Striker)
7/19/14 | #31 Diego Brandão (Striker/BJJ)
9/27/14 | #10 Dustin Poirier (Striker/BJJ)
*1/18/15 | #19 Dennis Siver (Striker/BJJ)

*Title eliminator bout between #7 Conor McGregor and #19 Dennis Siver.

4/04/15 | #3 Chad Mendes (Wrestler) and #5 Ricardo Lamas (Wrestler) were tied up.
5/16/15 | #2 Frankie Edgar (Wrestler) and #3-Bantamweight Urijah Faber were tied up.

The UFC protected McGregor through the matchmaking, and only after dumping millions of dollars into promoting UFC 189 did they make the calculated risk of matching McGregor up against a short-notice Mendes. They purposely tied up all the wrestlers in the top ten so they had an excuse for why none of them were fighting McGregor, and weakly justified him jumping to the front of the line with a victory over #19 Dennis Siver.

I'm not trying to suggest that McGregor would have lost against these fighters with both sides having a full camp, but anyone trying to argue that McGregor wasn't protected through the matchmaking is hilariously biased.
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Beating 3rd ranked and then 1st ranked means you have defeated the best. Any other conspiracy theory you proffer is based on 0 evidence.

He earned his title shot with a long win streak and then won the title very easily. What else do you want from him? He would have absolutely destroyed Urijah Faber and he did fight Chad Mendes. The only thing you have against him is that he never fought Frankie Edgar. When was he going to do that? 2013 when he was new to the division or 2014 when Edgar was doing TUF and had other fights booked? 2015 when he was taking a higher ranked title fight? 2016 when he was moving up to fight a much larger champion that was on a very impressive win streak?

What exactly do you think he had to prove in that division?
 
Unheralded Truth said:
Cub Swanson had no problems with Dustin Poirier, but failed twice against Frankie Edgar.

Yet Conor's hardcore fans act like Poirier is a great win, as if he'd be on the same level as Frankie.

Frankie, Ortega and Cub are above all the FW's Conor fought, except for Holloway who was very green at the point.
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Frankie was pretty much the only elite FW at the time that Conor didn't fight.

Conor does have some asterisk's on his FW resume though, like Mendes coming in on short notice, getting a title shot after Dennis Siver etc.
 
Frankie was the only top guy at the time Conor didn't fight. He had an easy run to the title but since Aldo dropped out and he had to beat Mendes that made it perfectly legit. All the Conor hype and persona aside he was without a doubt the best FW at the time. Had the UFC not given him all these crazy opportunities after that it would have been cool to see him fight Frankie for his first defense.
 
acannxr said:
4/06/13 | #27 Marcus Brimage (Striker)
8/17/13 | #67 Max Holloway (Striker)
7/19/14 | #31 Diego Brandão (Striker/BJJ)
9/27/14 | #10 Dustin Poirier (Striker/BJJ)
*1/18/15 | #19 Dennis Siver (Striker/BJJ)

*Title eliminator bout between #7 Conor McGregor and #19 Dennis Siver.

4/04/15 | #3 Chad Mendes (Wrestler) and #5 Ricardo Lamas (Wrestler) were tied up.
5/16/15 | #2 Frankie Edgar (Wrestler) and #3-Bantamweight Urijah Faber were tied up.

The UFC protected McGregor through the matchmaking, and only after dumping millions of dollars into promoting UFC 189 did they make the calculated risk of matching McGregor up against a short-notice Mendes. They purposely tied up all the wrestlers in the top ten so they had an excuse for why none of them were fighting McGregor, and weakly justified him jumping to the front of the line with a victory over #19 Dennis Siver.

I'm not trying to suggest that McGregor would have lost against these fighters with both sides having a full camp, but anyone trying to argue that McGregor wasn't protected through the matchmaking is hilariously biased.
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You ignored what I said. His path was no easier than others. He had already done enough before siver and that was a showcase fight and final test on free tv.

You can’t point out who he didn’t fight without addressing who all of Aldo’s other challengers didn’t fight either.
 
The people complaining about a title eliminator against siver are the same people who think khabib is champion for beating al. Think on that one <Lmaoo>
 
when khabib beats 2 champs, 1 ex champ, 1 future champ and dominator - fighting at 3 diff weight classes
we can worry bout mcgs record...
until then, we should be concerned with the easy road being laid for khabib.
 
giovanni002 said:
He beat Denis f*cking Siver for a title shot. Let that sink in. Then he used his mouth to talk his way for a fight with Aldo. Guys like JDS and Ferguson went on a higher ladder or longer streaks and basically clear up the division just to fight for the belt.
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He beat Poirier for a title shot.

The Siver fight was too stay busy while Aldo healed from Mendes.
 
giovanni002 said:
He beat Denis f*cking Siver for a title shot. Let that sink in. Then he used his mouth to talk his way for a fight with Aldo. Guys like JDS and Ferguson went on a higher ladder or longer streaks and basically clear up the division just to fight for the belt.
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The Siver fight was a tune up fight. There's plenty to criticize McGregor for. You don't have to make shit up to do it.
 
I wouldn't count out Conor against any FW, then or now. But his lack of activity in MMA is truly frustrating. <BWRDodged>
 
cmw43 said:
These rankings are BS, the only rankings that count are official UFC rankings.

Do you think Conor "ducked" Frankie by chasing a fight with RDA at 155?

He was just looking for bigger challenges.
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Well McGregor ducked a lot of fighters in those rankings, particularly Daniel Straus and Pat Curran.
 
acannxr said:
4/06/13 | #27 Marcus Brimage (Striker)
8/17/13 | #67 Max Holloway (Striker)
7/19/14 | #31 Diego Brandão (Striker/BJJ)
9/27/14 | #10 Dustin Poirier (Striker/BJJ)
*1/18/15 | #19 Dennis Siver (Striker/BJJ)

*Title eliminator bout between #7 Conor McGregor and #19 Dennis Siver.

4/04/15 | #3 Chad Mendes (Wrestler) and #5 Ricardo Lamas (Wrestler) were tied up.
5/16/15 | #2 Frankie Edgar (Wrestler) and #3-Bantamweight Urijah Faber were tied up.

The UFC protected McGregor through the matchmaking, and only after dumping millions of dollars into promoting UFC 189 did they make the calculated risk of matching McGregor up against a short-notice Mendes. They purposely tied up all the wrestlers in the top ten so they had an excuse for why none of them were fighting McGregor, and weakly justified him jumping to the front of the line with a victory over #19 Dennis Siver.

I'm not trying to suggest that McGregor would have lost against these fighters with both sides having a full camp, but anyone trying to argue that McGregor wasn't protected through the matchmaking is hilariously biased.
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Anyone using Fightmatrix rankings is hilariously biased.
 
Max was very green (as was McGregor) and I'd honestly love to see a rematch with where their skills are now. I feel Max has improved more

Siver and Porier were perfect and hand picked matchups for him stylistically

UFC absolutely protected him from Frankie

His best win was on a 1 week to prepare Mendes. Solid fight by McG, survived the ground onslaught from Chad, landed some body shots to hasted the gas out, and capitalized with his power. Still, McGregor has never fought someone with wrestling skills and anything resembling a training camp

Aldo, well, Connor won that fight in the media lead up by getting so far into his head Aldo came out looking like a garage trained fighter trying to finish it with one punch. And Connor took very good advantage of that opening. I wish we could see a true Aldo vs Connor fight
 
Frankie is the only one he didn't fight relevant.

Max, Aldo, Mendes

He basically ended Aldo's career..
 
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