Deontay Wilder: 'No one in the US knows Anthony Joshua's name... he needs to fight me to be a global

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  1. PUO3

    PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Want to compare current titles....?

    Want to compare reveue?

    Want to compare ppv buys?

    Want to compare live gates?

    It isnt close. The States rule by a hilariously wide margin.

    Youre arguing two entirely different topics. No one here said Wilder has done anything that Joshua has. Wilder is talking shit to get his name in fans mouths. Thats it.

    Trying to turn that into an argument that USA has lost its stronghold on Boxing is fucking stupid.
     
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    Live gate utterly depends on the main event and what 90k live gate did America have last year?

    The rest is still with America but that's not what I said, I said Russia, Europe, Britain are "starting" to combine to do things outside of the US such as the WBSS which has been a great contest with still more to come.

    Cruiser weight and HW titles are all mopped up outside the US bar the WBC HW title.

    All I'm saying is because America won't share the playground things are developing away from the US.

    So yes you may still be leading in a lot of those areas but that doesn't mean you have a CW or HW division, because at the moment outside of Deontay you don't, Gassiev crushed Issiah Thomas.

    Fighters like Kovalev, Lomachenko and GGG could take their titles abroad if they chose to as well, they are not American fighters, a lot of your talent is imported.
     
  3. PUO3

    PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Ohhh but all those guys are still fighting in the States right? Where the money is right? Which is what I said all along right?

    I didnt claim all of the talent was American. I said this is where the biggest fights are still happening.

    It isnt even debatable. The numbers and facts are astromincally against the gibberish youre spouting.
     
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    How am I talking gibberish when I didn't dispute what you said?

    "The biggest fights are still happening in America."

    On that subject what happens when your boy Deontay is forced to come fight at Wembley? literally forced?

    The biggest HW fight in how many years? will be held in England.

    CW title fights, you'll have to fight where they tell you to, Russia, Ukraine wherever unless they decide to come to America.

    All I'm saying is there is action which right now I'm finding more entertaining proper fights happening outside of the US and its freak shows.
     
  5. PUO3

    PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I already said Wilder will cross the pond because AJ is a bigger draw than he is. No one gives a shit about CW. Name all those big fights and lets see what theyre bringing in?

    All the States produced in 2017 were “freak shows” like Canelo/Golovkin, Ward/Kova, Rungvisai/Gonzalez, Frampton/Santa Cruz etc right?

    Your entire world wide boxing argument revolves around AJ and Cruisers. Sounds like you have the same arrogance problem that you say Americans do.

    Again, the States are still dominating the boxing scene. Saying otherwise is simply stupid.
     
  6. PUO3

    PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Btw, didnt a “frozen out American” go to England and break Kell Brooks face this year?
     
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    Don’t even try, idiots like this make my eyeballs itch
     
  8. Boxiana

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    Toilet was taken from the French “Toilette” because the preferred English word - Lavatory - was too long to fit on the door in trains. That’s what my granddad told me anyway.

    So it’s probably an anti-French thing that you don’t like using it, which is fine of course.
     
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    why is wilder talking about tyson and lewis when he has ortiz?

    luis may be 40, off the juice and slow but he can still punch and can end deontays night with one shot. wilder must be forgetting that he was arguably one uppercut away from being put on the canvas against molina
     
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    PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Cant imagine hes looking past Ortiz. Really seems like hes just going the loudmouth route to drive up the buzz with fans.

    Lol’d at your Ortiz description. Thats good stuff.
     
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    Talking about the fights after Ortiz fits the definition of looking past him, n’est pa?

    Not that it really matters. He’ll jab him for a while then end the night with a straight right.
     
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    The live gate for Canelo/Golovkin was almost double what it was for Joshua/Klitschko and the fight grossed appreciably more overall than Joshua/Klitschko.
     
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    I feel this fight should be on CBS over ppv. I don't think they can do Canelo type numbers plus it will not be in primetime in the states.

    Money will always be bigger in the states. No debate there but AJ hold the cards.
     
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    That's probably the dumbest idea I've ever heard about the fight.
     
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    Explain why? CBS is the biggest tv network in the states.
     
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    I’m willing to bet a higher percentage of people in the UK have heard of Wilder than in the US (because of his association with AJ), if not it must be very close.

    In a strange way Deontay actually needs Joshua to become more famous in America (being a unified HW champ would surely increase his media exposure immeasurably) so the fight would benefit them both from that respect.
     
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    PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I suppose you can make that argument. But I moreso mean that I dont think Wilder is taking Ortiz lightly or assuming the win is already in the bag.

    He hasnt fought enough quality competition to even have that arrogance.
     
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    Just waiting for Ward return to clean out the division.
     
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    PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Ive been face to face with Ward, and face to face with HWs. Ward does not want to get in the ring with AJ, Wilder, Ortiz, etc.

    The size difference is absolutely ridiculous.

    Ward may beat some ass at CW but he will get his head knocked off if he gets in with the big boys.
     
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    If they can hit him with a clean shot. Wilder would get so frustrated with Ward.
     

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