Democracy Index by country (2017)

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  1. Ruprecht

    Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Could be, although economically Chinese influence in New Zealand is right behind Australian influence.
    Then again they told the US to piss off in '85, which was more than we could do.
     
  2. Sohei

    Sohei Too swole to control

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    Pretty obvious Murka is at best a flawed democracy considering all the built-in oligarchic mechanisms meant to subvert it, i.e. electoral college, super delegates, the senate, etc.
     
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    Prutfis Master of pups

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    Sane people don´t consider the right to bear arms a metric freedom. We are not such giant pussies or live in such shitholes we need guns to feel safe and free. That´s a US thing. I would certainly have a very long list of priorities before mah guunz. Financial freedom, social mobility etc.

    Your freedom of speech is also not absolute. You have limitations like everyone else.

    This is so true.
     
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  4. irish_thug

    irish_thug Steel Belt

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    I would say the only ones in the full democracy list that surprise me are Luxemborg and Malta because I tend to forget they even exist.
    Uruguay, because I guess I have some dated views on it.
    And Mauritius, because I just now learned that was a country.
     
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    The joys of the multi-party system.
     
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    SammyPops Gold Belt

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    and the first past the post system. But hey, Jusin campaigned on changing this .... oh wait.
     
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  7. Rod1

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    Yes, but without the guidance of northern european countries you talk as if there werent many authoritarian sentiments on said countries.

    Both right and left in Latin America are authoritarian.
     
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    DespicablePeep Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    My favorite ranking, I think this tells you a lot more about democracy

    http://www.doingbusiness.org/rankings
     
  9. Cuauhtemoc

    Cuauhtemoc Pragmatic Technocratic Authoritarian

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    Yes, especially because these authoritarians were supported by the US.
     
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    Or the Soviet Union.

    That doesnt changes the fact that conservatism in Latin America isnt defined by classical liberalism.
     
  11. Trotsky

    Trotsky Social Capitalist / Capitalistic Communist

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    Even Pepe Mujica is authoritarian?

    Also, I thought Uruguay was fairly Mestizo and not bleached like Argentina.
     
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    Mujica certainly isnt an authoritarian, im talking about general terms.

    Also i wouldnt simply put it as left vs right, because the left a lot of times is also socially conservative. In fact here in Mexico the leftist candidate coalition includes the "far right" socially conservative party.

    And i think Uruguay is even more white than Argentina.

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  13. Trotsky

    Trotsky Social Capitalist / Capitalistic Communist

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    I don't know too terribly much about South American politics, but I always liked what I heard from and about him. Also just has a pleasant look about him. Like a nice old grandpa.

    Hmm, my google images have a little more chocolate in the milk.
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    Dont know about the picture on the top (could simply be tanned kids) but the bottom one. The green-black shirts are mexicans, the blue-white shirts are Uruguayans.

    I know because these are football national team jerseys.
     
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  15. Cuauhtemoc

    Cuauhtemoc Pragmatic Technocratic Authoritarian

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    Genetically, yes. X native chromosome with Y european chromosome. But they consider themselves to be white mostly. There is a term, castizo, that means you're over 75% white, and it's classified in the modern census as white. There isn't a mestizo identity like in Mexico. I was talking more about culture anyway, the southern cone is heavily european influenced.
     
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    Yeah, that was my first thinking. After reading some more, I´m glad to see Chile and Uruguay having a positive feedback from their efforts in the economic development. Maybe my mind is clouded by the fact that through the years I have met many people from Chile (we have a large community in Sweden) and they fled cause of authoritarian rule. And the story goes on country by country in South and latin America.

    And I don´t know where I heard it before or if it is any truth behind it. Is Brazil one of the most capitalist countries in the world? Few ultra rich owns most of the land?

    @Rod1. How come you are so well versed in the English language?

    Edit. How do I tag a member the correct way?
     
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  17. Ruprecht

    Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    It's strange to me that Uruguay is ranked about the same as Malaysia in economic development, yet everything I see and read from there comes across with an air of vintage style which makes me think of Cuba.
    Compared to Malaysia which has embraced modernism as much as possible (faux tudor monstrosities not withstanding).
     
  18. Oeshon

    Oeshon ช่างมันเถอะ

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    Thailand only a hybrid regime? lol

    The country was taken over by a military coup and they dissolved the constitution. It is a full blown authoritarian regime over here boys.
     
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  19. Trotsky

    Trotsky Social Capitalist / Capitalistic Communist

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    Yeah, I'm really struggling to understand how they are classifying "hybrid regime." For instance, Iran is listed as "authoritarian" (seemingly more so than China or Russia) despite it seeming to epitomize a hybrid regime, with a democratically elected head of government and democratically elected local officials, all subservient to an unelected Ayatollah. Also, Venezuela being in "authoritarian" is strange too since they had internationally reviewed and approved elections leading up to the most recent one and still retain the structural color of a representative democracy.

    EDIT: Their definition of "hybrid regime" is basically an ultra-corrupt democratic system, too corrupt for "flawed democracy," which is really misleading and not at all precise. The terminology seems to imply structural fusion of democratic and nondemocratic government.
     
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  20. sweede

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    Yeah, agreed. It´s amazing how they somehow dampen this un-democratic way of rule to co-exist with western tourist money. It´s like the smiling people and the food are to much of a factor that we forget to actually raise a voice or 2 to adress the ultra corrupt rule that is Thailand. Something Burma could learn something from.

    Oeshon. How are you doing? Long time no see. Where in Thailand are you staying? Do you have a woman in your life now?
     

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