Democracy Index by country (2017)

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  1. SammyPops

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    Its undemocratic. The minority rules the majority.
     
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  2. sweede

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    But, is it not fair if states with greater population that contribute with more tax money would have more to say?
     
  3. Dr. Shoemaker

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    Or old guys. Men traveling to Thailand in general deserve a few squinted eyes.
     
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    Yeah should be obvious but somehow I just hear it more from young guys. They're like "Thailand was so much fun" and I can't help but be grossed out by them.
     
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  5. Anung Un Rama

    Anung Un Rama The Right Hand of Doom Platinum Member

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    Not that is fair. What not fair is when a state has less of a population gets a disproportionally high say in the outcome.

    edit:

    I misread your post and my response is autocorrected to shite:

    yes, it is fair if states with a greater population have more to say; but it should be proportional and its not. Example: CA should have 20x more say than NM, but it only has 11x.

    However, that isn't the absolute answer either. If it were, candidates would just ignore the other States. @Rod1 had the better solution.
     
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  6. Dr. Shoemaker

    Dr. Shoemaker ****BOILERPLATE**** Platinum Member

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    - "Thailand was so much fun!"
    + "Glad you had a good time. Don't sit on my furniture."
     
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  7. Grenz

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    K, so what would be democratic in the context of the Canadian system then?
     
  8. MadSquabbles500

    MadSquabbles500 Gold Belt

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    Seriously who pays these people to compile a list like this? What relevance to any consumer can such a list possibly have? Any institutional investor should have the inside track, so won't need this list that is just publicly out there for anyone to read.
     
  9. Trotsky

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    Functioning of government:
    Mexico - 6.41
    China - 5.00
    Argentina - 5.00
    Cuba - 4.29
    Iran - 3.21

    LOL, okay. Did the cartel pay off these guys too?

    @Rod1 What thinks you? You may have a negative opinion of the above countries, but it's really, really hard for me to imagine a metric by which their government functionality is lower than Mexico. As I have said often, I think there is much to admire about both China and Cuba in terms of government functionality.
     
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  10. Anung Un Rama

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    @sweede - I misread your post and gave a sloppy reply. Please see my edit. Cheers.
     
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  11. Cuauhtemoc

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    That is why I compared it to Spain. They were both dictatorships at around the same time. Franco and Salazar, best buddies.
     
  12. Johnny Rosa

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    Young AND old.

    On topic, The States will be a hybrid regime in no time if it continues the way it does.
     
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  13. A.S. Deep

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    Crazy how the US was #21 and India was #42. There is a HUUUUUUUUUGE gap between the US and India in terms of election fairness, voter security, and democracy. I can't imagine how fucked up the countries in the bottom #50 must be.
     
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    Bu bu but Norway and Sweden are socialist/communist they can't be more democratic and free than USA

    -conservatives
     
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    You dont see how Trump losing the vote but winning the election would hurt the perception of democracy?
     
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  16. Sohei

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    Doesnt matter how many options, we know the one that you prefer and champion.

    And like a bish you avoid my question per usual and try to sound more intelligent than you are by using an uncommon word to try and impress the low lights.
     
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    I'm not referring specifically to @Greoric with this comment but the thread provides me laugh after laugh when angry right wingers come in and get so upset that their vision of freedom is never reflected in these kinds of indexes. It's almost like being spoonfed freedom-patriotism over and over makes you quite ignorant to the rest of the world.

    I don't really give these indexes a whole lot of credibility either but they sure make for a great joke with how upset people get.
     
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  18. Ruprecht

    Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I'd like to know how the Kiwi's pipped us though.
    Without checking the metrics, I'm going to assume it's more corruption/foreign interference/gerrymandering.
     
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  19. Neph

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    Haha yeah, I always laugh at how childish that kind of propoganda is and surely it would have an affect on only the most marginalised fringe people out there.

    There are ongoing questions however about big money and corruption within Trump's team where a lot of political influence can be exerted. I don't know if it's true or not so it doesn't feel particularly fair to penalise the standing on the basis of an investigation only.

    I would say though that the influence of big business on politics in the US far exceeds that in Australia. We have dodgy stuff like everyone does but it just feels that money buys so much more in the US.

    Finally I'd add that from an outsider perspective our news sources were pretty critical of how the Republican party blocked so much of the Democrats' policies during the Obama era. I'm sure others will have a more educated perspective on this so feel free to correct me. Whether you agree with the reasons behind it or not that does affect #4 considerably:

    4. "The capability of the civil servants to implement policies".
     
  20. Neph

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    The Kiwi's are just good at what they do and everyone loves them. I suspect the growing conflict between Australia and China specifically with regard to increasing concerns about Chinese influence would shift our position somewhat.
     

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