Del. Nick Freitas' guns speech goes viral.

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  1. BearGrounds

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    From his FB:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Freitas

    As Del. Nick Freitas' guns speech goes viral, Virginia Democrats say slavery remarks reopened racial wounds


    http://www.roanoke.com/news/politic...cle_e7d28f66-d1e8-5f41-8419-05c4b1333598.html

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    I can't stand political grandstanding completely laced with half-truths and intentional ignorance. They all do this. There is nothing more off-putting than playing dumb and insulting people to make a political point.
     
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    Did you even watch the speech? Because it doesn't sound like you did.
     
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    cliffs on the speech?
     
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    No, I don't think he did.
     
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    His speech is long, and would be an even longer post to address it in it's entirety. Pick any single part of what he said, and I will explain why he's speaking half-truths or grandstanding.

    And do you want to edit your post saying that you do not believe I heard the speech? That seems like a pretty empty accusation to make.
     
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    But even if you had, your critique comes across as nothing more than reflexive hate. You've pointed out nothing in particular at all.
     
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    He is a lying crybaby with no solutions and no argument. I own many guns, and I sure don't need this pussy to speak for me. He doesn't.
     
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    You're the one saying it's half truths or intentional ignorance. It's up to you to justify that stance not me to quote up portions of the transcript. Either you have an argument you can articulate about any given point or you don't. But, you're certainly within your right to make an off hand comment and then leave at that. It's also the readers right to simply ignore it as bluster.
     
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    I doubt you read the whole pile of shit, I stopped reading when he said welfare state breaks families apart.
     
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    So, how is he lying?
     
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    The only "ideas" he mentions in his "speech" are: "WAAAAAHHHHHH Democrats!" while he cries like a little girl.
     
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    LOL keep lashing out buddy. I'm sure it's therapeutic for you.
     
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    Okay, let's start at the very beginning. He starts off by saying that these shootings occur in gun-free school zones. The obvious hack-political point being made there is that more guns would make them more safe.

    That's untrue, many schools have SROs on campus with guns. The SRO in the most recent situation stayed outside while the shooting occurred.

    He then says gun-control doesn't work because Chicago and Baltimore have high murder rates. He fails to mention that 60% of the guns used in Chicago crimes come from outside of the state. Meaning, people buy guns where there is no gun control, and use them in cities with gun control.

    He says the shooters come from broken homes, which are encouraged in some way by Democrats. That is just a ridiculous statement, the shooters come from a massively diverse background. Some rich, some poor, some white, some black, some Hispanic, etc. It is just a dumb point.

    He somehow ties abortion to mass shootings, without really specifying how that makes any sense.

    He literally begins by running through talking points, that have obvious counter points, and completely ignores the fact that these debates have already occurred. That is called grandstanding. Saying things people have already said, that have already been countered, without offering a single new response.
     
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    Just skimmed over the transcript, the guy is playing to his crowd. He says he does not believe Democrats will stop with just a few changes, he thinks if he gives up on background checks it won´t stop there. Thats stupid reasoning, so even if he thinks the idea is good he won´t do it because he fears Democrats will want more changes?
     
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    So you have criminals going around the law and regular folks disarmed, in that case he has a point. You want more people with guns and criminals without guns.
     
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    The vast majority of violence in Chicago is gang and drug related. It's not common law abiding folks who can't find a gun to protect themselves with being killed by clever armed criminals. That point is another silly talking point that really makes no sense the more you think about it.

    This is what I mean though. It is a complicated discussion, that requires time and thought. Not some ass running through all his talking points without anybody to discuss the obvious holes with.
     

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