Deconstructing MMA Myths... [Part 13] - Khabib´s Eastern European Career

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  1. gono btw

    gono btw Rounds...

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    Today :

    The evolution of Khabib´s Eastern European Career, btw 2008 & 2011.

    Myth 1: Khabib was protected & only fought cans.
    Myth 2: He was dominant & 'undefeated'.

    Note: this thread can be seen as an extension of this one:

    The term 'Can' is an uneasy one, often misused in the MMA World.
    The way I see it, it´s a matter of perspective, and one should bears in mind that a MMA career highly depends on timing, markets & opportunities.

    Thus, my analysis here will only be about skil lset & technical sequences during these 16 fights, to determine whether these fighters were mismatches or not, in this progressive non-UFC career.

    > btw Fight 1 & 4: @ LW
    > btw Fight 5 & 6: @ WW
    > btw Fight 7 & 8: @ LW
    > btw Fight 9 & 16: @ WW

    Total = 6 fights @ LW / 10 fights @ WW.

    CSFU: Champions League
    Pankration Atrium Cup
    Tsumada Fighting Championship
    Golden Fist Russia

    Opponents = 9 Russians - 2 Ukrainians - 2 Azerbaijanis - 1 Belarusian - 1 Armenian - 1 Brazilian

    ...which shows a certain homogeneous MMA 'universe' when it comes to skill sets...


    1/ vs Vusal Bayramov :

    Bayramov showcased some good leg kicks.
    But Khabib got an easy TD, then easy mount & slick transition to a triangle choke.

    Verdict: Bayramov schooled on the ground.

    2/ vs. Magomed Magomedov :

    Magomedov was 3-6 btw 2003 & 2014.
    But...A striker [kickboxer] with legit submission arsenal: interesting skill set, reminds me a lil bit of a [less complete] Amar Suloev.
    Unfortunately, obviously didnt get the right opportunities during his career.

    Magomedov outclassed Khabib on the feet, but remained tentative because of the TD threat.
    Khabib got easy single-leg TDs during this fight.
    Magomedov showcased good body kicks, good jabz.
    Khabib : brief armbar attempt, shaken off.
    Magomedov : uneasy legit armbar attempt on a transition.
    Khabib: brief side control, good knees,
    Magomedov: could have gotten side control but not interested. Showcased good GNP

    Note1: Fight Configuration:
    The Referee [org: Pankration Atrium Cup] was a huge fan of the stand-up rule...(even when Khabib had side control... but seems Russian fighters were accustomed to this, since no whining from Khabib)

    Note2: thinking about it, since Pankration Atrium Cup had such a trigger-happy stand-up rule (even when Khabib had side control), makes consequently lil sense to reward ground control, imo...

    Verdict : tough fight to score, depends on your MMA 'ideology',
    but imo Magomedov did more damage and had more legit submission attempts.

    > In my books, it´s Khabib´s 1st loss.

    3/ vs Ramazan Kurbanismailov :

    Kurbanismailov : striker,weak TDD, weak ground game

    Verdict: mismatch, easy Khabib win. Kurbanismailov showed nuthin

    4/ vs Shamil Abdulkerimov :

    Abdulkerimov reversed Khabib and almost mounted him, but bad scramble.
    Then Khabib got an easy mount, but surprisingly transitionned to side control...
    Again: quick stand-up rule by the Ref.
    Abdulkerimov: more of a striker, limited defensive ground game
    Khabit gets side control, good knees to the body but stand-up rule again.
    Good armbar attempt by Abdulkerimov.
    Khabib then pulls a smooth transition to an eazy mount, but surprisingly lost it

    Note: Most of Khabib´s TDs (5) were lightning fast single-leg ones (only 1 double)

    Verdict: Khabib wins relatively easily

    Welterweight debut.:

    5/ vs Said Akhmed :

    Khabib: easy single leg, easy side control, easy mount, efficient GNP

    Verdict: easy Khabib win

    6/ vs Eldar Eldarov :

    > This is the only fight that I havent seen.

    Right now, Eldarov´s MMA record: 8-1
    He lost to Khabib via TKO (punches) in the 2nd Round.

    I checked 3 of his recent fights:

    Eldar Eldarov vs Davrbek Isakov:
    Good technical fight, Isakov bigger & better striker, good submission game, some nice transitions, legit potential imo.
    Eldarov stayed composed, understood he was outclassed on the feet, looked quickly for the clinch to get the TD. Isakov transitionned to a decent leglock then armbar attempt, but Eldarov once again stayed composed, secured the full mount (weak defensive guard from Isakov) to get a nice armbar.

    Brave 1 Free Fight: Kevin Koldobsky vs Eldar Eldarov:
    Eldarov showcased heavy hands, but is more of a grinder, not very tecnhical on the feet or on the ground

    Brave 6 Free Fight: Henrique Rasputin vs Eldar Eldarov:
    Eldarov showcased efficient GNP, with nasty elbows.

    Eldarov seems talented, an accoomplished wrestler, more of a WW.
    In his profile, Khabib describes him as a childhood friend (!), and his hero:

    For sure, he´s potentially the readiest of this list for the UFC Fight Configuration, but Im definitely not impressed.

    Return to Lightweight. :

    7/ vs Shahbulat Shamhalaev :

    1st time I see Khabib going more for TDs from body lock.
    Khabib gets reversed though, but was a trap: transitions to armbar, but loses it.
    Then fluid transition: from side control to full mount, then armbar

    Verdict: Shamhalaev no match on the ground

    8/ vs Oleg Bagov :

    Strong Bagov in the clinch but limited & awkward striking.
    Khabib almost taken down but saved by using the ropes.
    Khabib gets the TD but fails to secure top control, is easily reversed
    Bagov: telegraphed TDs,easily stuffed
    Note: Khabib again leading with the left hook, but 1st time I see him throwing a jab with the left

    Note: Fight Configuration:
    headbutts allowed (Khabib´s technique is pretty weird...)

    Verdict: easy Khabib win.

    Return to Welterweight. :

    9/ vs Vitaliy Ostrovskiy :

    Khabib showcases a lethal single leg, gets an easy full mount.
    Transition: slick armbar attempt, unreal defence by Ostrovskiy,
    but khabib still secures a dominant position, even a crucifix,

    Verdict: complete domination, probably Khabib´s best performance ever

    10/ vs Aleksandr Agafonov :

    Agafonov : solid stand up, boxing, legit leg kicks. Interesting skill set, but limited defensive guard,
    constantly switching stances, disrupting Khabib´s flow.
    decent combos, but a lil bit reaching.
    Again, weird stand-up rule with Khabib in side control.
    Then Khabib gets easily the side control again, almost full mount.
    Agafonov quit on his stool at the beginning of the 3rd Rd (injury...rib)

    Verdict: Agafonov did more damage on the feet, but Khabib got easy TDs...
    Still, Khabib actually did lil damage.
    Could have been an interesting 3rd round, and final decision.

    11/ vs Said Khalilov :

    Khalilov: unimpressive stand-up, limited TDD.
    Khalilov: 1st TD stuffed, but not the others.
    Khabib: easy guard-passing, side control, kimura

    Verdict: easy Khabib win

    12/ vs Ashot Shahinyan :

    Shahinyan: undersized & outstruck

    Verdict: mismatch, waste of time in Khabib´s progression

    13/ vs Kadzhik Abadzhyan :

    Khabib countered by a right hook, almost dropped (Khabib more "wobbled" than vs MJ).


    Khabib gets an easy TD, easy guard-passing, easy side control, almost crucifix.
    Abadzhyan: seems to have a decent striking, jab, but hindered by TD threat
    Then: Khabib getting an easy TD, full mount, slick armbar transition
    Abadzhyan: unreal defence, tough, reverses Khabib
    Khabib: transition to a slick triangle
    Abadzhyan: defends once, not twice

    Verdict: one of Khabib´s best performances ever

    14/ vs Khamiz Mamedov :

    Mamedov: chubby, undersized (btw looks like a Russian BJ)
    Khabib: only body lock, works a lil bit, TD secured
    Then: easy side control, almost transitions to full mount,
    But Mamedov escapes.
    Note: Khabib fails to snap the arm to get the armbar during the transition...
    Mamedov: outmuscled.
    Khabib almost takes his back, but prefers to secure the TD, gets the full mount.
    Then: decent transition from armbar to triangle choke

    Verdict: one of Khabib´s best performances ever, but... step-down in competition

    15/ vs Vadim Sandulitsky :

    Khabib: easy single leg TD
    Then: side control, but guillotine attempt from Sandulitsky.Shaken off.
    Khabib gets the easy full mount.
    Then: armbar attempt & quick transition to triangle choke, not really tight
    But Sandulitsky gives up...

    Verdict: one of Khabib´s best performances ever, but... step-down in competition again.

    16/ vs Arymarcel Santos :

    Santos (Carlson BJJ): showcases nice leg kicks.
    Santos then shoots for the double-leg TD, almost gets it, but Khabib uses ropes = 1 point deducted

    @ 1mn30:

    Khabib drops him with a good left upercut (1st successful one in his career).
    Santos: weak armbar & leglock attempts.
    Khabib wins via GNP, efficient but not very technical GNP

    Verdict: tough to say, since Khabib used the ropes to avoid the TD.
    Santos on top could have been interesting...


    > Khabib = 15-1

    > 6 Mismatches, 4 Easy Wins, 6 Legit Tests.
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2018 at 4:32 PM
  2. Grijswaarde

    Grijswaarde Black Belt

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    Jesus Christ... you have a lot of time.

    Coming from the maker of the Sherdog legends and memes thread.
  3. tonil

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  4. gono btw

    gono btw Rounds...

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    Insomnia last night...
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  5. Boomb

    Boomb Hate the game, not the player.

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    Don't you have this thing called "life", TS?

    j/k, good read, thanks TS, I really like these threads.
  6. gono btw

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    gono btw Rounds...

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    Insomnia last night...
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  8. wilKO

    wilKO Green, White & Gold belt

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    Seriously though. Good breakdown. It's amazing that undefeated guys have this aura around them because on paper they have no losses even though if you really followed their career they should have losses. Floyd Mayweather for example. Lost to Castillo the first time and there's no real argument and most people didn't even see it or know about it.
  9. gono btw

    gono btw Rounds...

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    It´s the eternal rant against Igor, Khabib & Barao...
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  10. cburm

    cburm Blue Belt Platinum Member

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    He fought. Guys with bad records .. Less experiance.. Except for eldarov who prolly from what youre saying..but there not cans.
  11. Noxcho18

    Noxcho18 kb

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    Enjoyed the read, nice breakdown!
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  12. gono btw

    gono btw Rounds...

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    I actually tried here to forget about their record, since Eastern European fighters have historically less MMA opportunities (except during the Rings, Pride & World Vale Tudo Championship eras).

    Focussed on their skillset.
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  13. accolyte1022

    accolyte1022 I should stick to dollies.

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    Cornrow via something.
  14. hedidhisownstunts

    hedidhisownstunts ThE oNe TrUe AnALyZeR

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    people are saying his record has even been padded in the UFC. the guy's undefeated, has an aura of invincibility and now holds a belt. he's been fighting with a target on his back in the UFC for awhile, and no one's been able to do anything about it. prior to Al taking the chance on the short notice fight in Brooklyn, he expressed in no uncertain terms that Khabib was the least desirable match-up on the roster. Anyone saying Khabib's walk to where he is now has been paved and lubed for him, is likely over-committed to the hyperbole in anticipation of his biggest fight against his most charismatic opponent.
  15. YouKnowWhat?

    YouKnowWhat? Blue Belt

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    Fact: Khabib is an undefeated champ
  16. TapMachine

    TapMachine Pretty Princess

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    The only thing that matters is the fact that Khabib has no losses in the UFC.

    Looks like a win to me.
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  17. Anaconda99

    Anaconda99 Orange Belt

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  18. Kael Rills

    Kael Rills Orange Belt

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    Nice info there. I have no doubt it's 100% objective :rolleyes:
  19. Pancake Sprawl

    Pancake Sprawl WAR IGOR!!!11

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    Mutating ...
    great unbiased analysis.

    need more of that. too many people regard you as a "hater" if you have any kind of critique on their favorite fighter.

    you're then called a "nuthugger" if you say something positive about a fighter they don't like.

    it's strange how personally invested people are in fighters who don't even know they exist.
  20. gono btw

    gono btw Rounds...

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    see by yourself...

    Im actually attackin´the extremes here (Myth 1 & 2 are conflictin´ones...)

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