Dear Amy or: How I Learned to Start Worrying and Fear the Atomic Generation

[Madmick]

Facetious thread title, don't take it too seriously.

Caught this old lady's column in the Sports section of the local newspaper today. Millennials, if you ever wonder why the older timers are constantly talking shit, and venting frustration, remember two things:

1. That's how it has worked since the dawn of Man, and you're gonna do the same to your replacement models. Big Picture.
   
2. Print this out and pin it up on your wall. It's an ode to an unsustainable cultural attitude. This is more specific: to my generation, Gen X, but much more so to yours.

Ask Amy: Woman upsets her mother by getting birth control

Dear Amy: I am a 24-year-old college graduate living at home to save money for a place of my own.

I have been dating “Martin” for almost a year. We love each other and have talked about our future (i.e., marriage).

After a lot of discussion and research, we decided that it was appropriate to look into long-term birth control. About a month ago, I had my appointment at the clinic, and everything went well.

Until last night. Yesterday my mother received the notice from the health insurance company notifying her of my clinic visit, because I am on her health coverage.

While I stand by my decision to be proactive and responsible, she is struggling with it and with how she found out.

She is very conservative in her views on premarital sex, and feels incredibly hurt that I did not tell her about it ahead of time.

We have always been very close, so I understand her hurt. I honestly wrestled with talking with her about this, but at the same time, it was a choice regarding my body and my relationship.

I offered to pay for it, but she said that the damage has already been done.

Can you give your opinion? How much is a parent entitled to know about their adult child’s intimate life?

Is there anything I could have done/can do to help the situation?

You offered to "pay" for what, sweetie? The birth control, your entire health care plan, or rent?

The liberals and socialists will argue, "Well, if the parents don't allow this, then they could end up with a much more expensive problem on their hands." But that's the problem. It's not supposed to be their problem, should it arise, and the best way for it to become less expensive for them is if they're not the only ones paying it down.

What incentive does this girl have to change that? She's getting the best of both child and adult worlds. She's living an adult life without being an adult. She was happy to continue down that road on her mother's dime with her mother none the wiser. She wouldn't have been caught out if she had any idea how the adult world (i.e. health insurance) works.

This family is just headed down a road where the parents are raising two sets of children, and throwing birth control pills at this doesn't address the systemic imbalance here. Conservatives have a point. They're not the ones being assholes.

 

[nostradumbass]

On your #1, I think most of the past generations had a "these kids are out of control", whereas now the opinion is "my God, these kids are complete pussies". Jesus, can you imagine if these cans were a married couple still under their parents' medical insurance?

The mom should offer to pay for a hysterectomy and just nip that shit in the bud permanently. Or she and her unemployed boyfriend can maybe slap on a couple of onesies and have a chat about their medical insurance options.

 

[Luger]

"I offered to pay for it, but she said that the damage has already been done."

LOL!
She is 24 years old. Just let her bang, bro

 

[ripskater]

Why in the heck would the last administration use that young man in a pajama onesie for an advertisement?

If you're a man and didn't like Obamacare before the ad, you sure as heck hated it after.

 

[ripskater]

Facetious thread title, don't take it too seriously.

Caught this old lady's column in the Sports section of the local newspaper today. Millennials, if you ever wonder why the older timers are constantly talking shit, and venting frustration, remember two things:

1. That's how it has worked since the dawn of Man, and you're gonna do the same to your replacement models. Big Picture.
   
2. Print this out and pin it up on your wall. It's an ode to an unsustainable cultural attitude. This is more specific: to my generation, Gen X, but much more so to yours.

Ask Amy: Woman upsets her mother by getting birth control

You offered to "pay" for what, sweetie? The birth control, your entire health care plan, or rent?

The liberals and socialists will argue, "Well, if the parents don't allow this, then they could end up with a much more expensive problem on their hands." But that's the problem. It's not supposed to be their problem, should it arise, and the best way for it to become less expensive for them is if they're not the only ones paying it down.

What incentive does this girl have to change that? She's getting the best of both child and adult worlds. She's living an adult life without being an adult. She was happy to continue down that road on her mother's dime with her mother none the wiser. She wouldn't have been caught out if she had any idea how the adult world (i.e. health insurance) works.

This family is just headed down a road where the parents are raising two sets of children, and throwing birth control pills at this doesn't address the systemic imbalance here. Conservatives have a point. They're not the ones being assholes.

If you live in your parents home, you gotta play by their rules. There comes a time when you gotta move out.

You can't expect mom not to know your business with birth control if you're having her pay the insurance for you.

Also, no mention of dad in the home. If he was there, he'd be pissed.

 

[Luger]

Also, no mention of dad in the home. If he was there, he'd be pissed.

Why?
She is 24 years old FFS

 

[Roaming East]

People angry at 'pc' culture tend to be so cause they can't use racial slurs in acceptable public discourse any more. It's why the biggest cry babies about it are always old bitter white men or young alt-right types

 

[Madmick]

People angry at 'pc' culture tend to be so cause they can't use racial slurs in acceptable public discourse any more. It's why the biggest cry babies about it are always old bitter white men or young alt-right types

Perhaps you feel that way because "PC Culture" actually allows for slurs and racial vilification, but it's all one way, favoring your own racist tendencies and political interests, so you don't mind it.

Perhaps you might also post on topic. If "PC Culture" is represented by living at home, not paying for anything, then getting indignant when one's parents discover one is deliberately defying their value system under their own roof by furtively drawing on their health care plan because it was a "choice regarding my body and my relationship", and "old bitter white men" are the only people who oppose the model tolerant of this cultural attitude, then old bitter white men are the only people who have a lick of fucking sense.

 

[oldshadow]

"I offered to pay for it, but she said that the damage has already been done."

LOL!
She is 24 years old. Just let her bang, bro

Let's her bang on her dime.

Then she an adult and can tell people it's he personal business.

 

[Luger]

Let's her bang on her dime.

Then she an adult and can tell people it's he personal business.

Tell that dude to pull out, save some tax payers money

 

[oldshadow]

People angry at 'pc' culture tend to be so cause they can't use racial slurs in acceptable public discourse any more. It's why the biggest cry babies about it are always old bitter white men or young alt-right types

There is a difference between good manners, constitutional rights and PC bull shit. The biggest problem is the number of young people that don't understand this.

 

[oldshadow]

Tell that dude to pull out, save some tax payers money

Her mother is supporting her and the best thing is for her mother to tell her to get out and take adult responsibility then she can have adult fun.

 

[Luger]

Her mother is supporting her and the best thing is for her mother to tell her to get out and take adult responsibility then she can have adult fun.

Don't hate the leech, hate the host.

 

[oldshadow]

Don't hate the leech, hate the host.

I don't blame and my advice to mom is tough love. Tell her if she wants to be an adult then act like one, support herself.

 

[Luger]

I don't blame and my advice to mom is tough love. Tell her if she wants to be an adult then act like one, support herself.

I agree.
And just let Martin bang away

 

[snakedafunky]

Facetious thread title, don't take it too seriously.

Caught this old lady's column in the Sports section of the local newspaper today. Millennials, if you ever wonder why the older timers are constantly talking shit, and venting frustration, remember two things:

1. That's how it has worked since the dawn of Man, and you're gonna do the same to your replacement models. Big Picture.
   
2. Print this out and pin it up on your wall. It's an ode to an unsustainable cultural attitude. This is more specific: to my generation, Gen X, but much more so to yours.

Ask Amy: Woman upsets her mother by getting birth control

You offered to "pay" for what, sweetie? The birth control, your entire health care plan, or rent?

The liberals and socialists will argue, "Well, if the parents don't allow this, then they could end up with a much more expensive problem on their hands." But that's the problem. It's not supposed to be their problem, should it arise, and the best way for it to become less expensive for them is if they're not the only ones paying it down.

What incentive does this girl have to change that? She's getting the best of both child and adult worlds. She's living an adult life without being an adult. She was happy to continue down that road on her mother's dime with her mother none the wiser. She wouldn't have been caught out if she had any idea how the adult world (i.e. health insurance) works.

This family is just headed down a road where the parents are raising two sets of children, and throwing birth control pills at this doesn't address the systemic imbalance here. Conservatives have a point. They're not the ones being assholes.

This is actual a recognised psychological condition. I can't remember the name but thinking the younger generation are worse than your own is the normal thing to do.
Partly because you remember things better than they actual were at the time you experienced them.

 

[CubicleGangster]

I'm having a hard time grasping the issue here. Should she not be on birth control?

 

[Jack V Savage]

The liberals and socialists will argue, "Well, if the parents don't allow this, then they could end up with a much more expensive problem on their hands." But that's the problem. It's not supposed to be their problem, should it arise, and the best way for it to become less expensive for them is if they're not the only ones paying it down.

That's pretty much right, though, isn't it? I mean, regardless of what is "supposed to" happen, the parents will be somewhat fucked if the girl gets pregnant (or, if not, it's society--and moreso if the kid goes hungry and unloved). I think liberalism (not socialism) is the moment where humanity grows up and says, "We can't expect political leaders/businessfolk/ordinary citizens to be perfect, but we can minimize the harm of people being flawed with well-designed institutions and rational policies." It's not very inspiring, but unlike idealistic political movements or religious criticism of human nature, it has a track record of improving societies.

If the point is just, "this woman should feel bad about herself and we should say so," I guess that's fine. If the point is that we should change policy in order to disincentivize people staying at home into their prime years (with their parents' consent) and disobeying them, what's your proposal?

I think this is kind of the flip side of leftist extremists like Taibbi screeching about corporations being "greedy" or leftist extremists whining that powerful states act to preserve hegemony.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

I don't understand the problem???

Is that Obama fault or something? Or people are angry she is not having children and helping AMERICA be great again?

Moreover Amy being 24, her mother is probably a boomer, which means she was probably a whore sometime in her life too.

 

[CubicleGangster]

I don't understand the problem???

Is that Obama fault or something? Or people are angry she is not having children and helping AMERICA be great again?

Moreover Amy being 24, her mother is probably a boomer, which means she was probably a whore sometime in her life too.

Her mom being a boomer probably means she's partly responsible for her daughter being unable to afford the high cost of living in California despite being a recent college grad