Dan Hooker--Pulling Guard has no place in High Level MMA (New Podcast w/ Jessy Jess, Hooker, Pichel)

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  1. AdamHunter

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    Hope all is well. Here is the Brand New MMA Roasted Podcast w/ Dan Hooker, Jessy Jess, Vinc Pichel, Greg Wilson and Weendawg. Hope you enjoy the show.

    Adam Hunter
     
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    IngaVovchanchyn Steel Belt Platinum Member

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    I guess I agree. You almost never see it anyway.
     
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    He's right about that, unless you have god-tier finishing off your back.

    I can't really think of a single guy that does today though.

    The risk to reward ratio makes it a really dumb thing to do.
     
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    Could have worked for Ronda in her losses imo
     
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    I'd say Pettis Maia or Werdum and still it's not a good idea usually.
     
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    LouisBolanos Popcorn tastes good

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    Love your podcasts mang your jokes are the best. No pulled punches. Too bad when I try copying them on Sherdog mods delete my shit.
     
  7. AdamHunter

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    Thanks for the support man. Without listeners I am just talking to myself.
     
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    Still using that weird intro? Who's the musician?
     
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    Unless you are one of those BJJ experts like Lovato, Danis, Tonon, Ortega etc. It may be tough, sure. But those guys will do just fine.
     
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    If you're getting lit up on the feet and you can't take the guy down, you gotta try SOMETHING.
     
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    If I’m fighting him I pull guard early in the fight to get in his head. It must be a weakness in his game. Didn’t hick Diaz do it to him
     
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    I feel like I've seen it work a pretty good amount...
     
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    I mean, generally speaking he's right. Overall, submission defense has improved a ton in MMA, especially from top control and it's virtually impossible to win a decision in MMA from your back regardless of how many sub attempts you're throwing up. The judges seem to automatically think the guy on top is winning, period.
     
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    Only one that does it is Werdum.

    People claim that Nate did it against McGregor.

    The truth is not that it’s a bad position to be in to fight, it’s a bad position in for scoring.

    I remember seeing stats back then showing that PRIDE had a higher rate of triangle and armbar finishes and the UFC had higher rates of guillotines and RNCs.

    It’s because PRIDE scores guard as a neutral position. That made fighters more willing to fight from guard. It also meant that the fighter on top worked hard to advance position instead of laying in guard.
     
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    I love it when a aussie blue belt kickboxer educates me on high level grappling............
     
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    Andre Xiong Red Belt Professional Fighter

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    MMA is not familiar with high level guard

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    I did Stand Up in Mongolia and met comedian who was in that Rap Group. They are huge in Mongolia.
     
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    *you love it when a new zealand top 15 ufc fighter educates you on high level mma
     
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    Unless u have a killer guard
     
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    Thesnake101 This builder can fix your face real quick

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    Jeff Curran does not agree with that sentiment, but the judges do.
     

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