Cyborg wins via ..............

Echo_Bliss said:
I am tempted to report you for fighter bashing, you're basically accusing Borg Justino of being so... in Mark Hunt's words "juiced to the gills" that she goes into a roid rage mid-fight. Sit down the hype, and enjoy the fights. Justino is nowhere near as good as you're making her out to be. It reminds me of when Kimo Leopoldo came out and looked beast for a long time, destroying people, before he was finally ate up and exposed.
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Yeah Cyborg is not that good, but she wins due to her having gorilla levels of testosterone, Tito’s HGH dome and bigfoot’s TRT jawline.

She’ll roid rage into a double leg takedown and pound on poor Holly while exhibiting Wanderlei levels of aggression. Due to being juiced to the gills.

Then she’ll let us hear her very feminine voice in the post fight speech, because at least a decade of hormonal abuse for sure doesn’t affect your vocal chords.
 
I don’t think holly wins but Cyborg’s cardio might be suspect. Could be interesting
 
Koro_11 said:
LOL @ people picking Holly to win.

I mean I get it, she got rid of the disease called Ronda and I’ll forever love her for it, but Cyborg is gonna go through her like a hot knife through butter. I really don’t see how Holly can win this one.
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As much as I like Holly, I can't wait to see.Cyborg steam roll her.

Just for the fact that all the Ronda fans used to act like Cyborg sucked.

Now, Ronda is MIA, been destroyed twice, and Cyborg is about to obliterate the woman who made Ronda look like an amateur.
 
... elevated testosterone levels
 
Via once again being larger and stronger than her opponent. Nothing to see here, move along.
 
HereticBD said:
LOL, wut?

Holly's gonna lose, bro. Just come to terms with it, before the inevitable happens. It'll soften the blow for when they're carrying Holm's corpse out of the cage.
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This. Yes, I'm a big Cyborg fan, but to think she's not the best WMMA fighter BY FAR is insane.
 
Koro_11 said:
LOL @ people picking Holly to win.

I mean I get it, she got rid of the disease called Ronda and I’ll forever love her for it, but Cyborg is gonna go through her like a hot knife through butter. I really don’t see how Holly can win this one.
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See here's the problem. I get it if you think Cyborg's going to win. But how can anyone with knowledge of MMA claim to not see how Holly can win? That's ridiculous. She's a phenomenal boxer and kickboxer, has been fighting at a high level for decades, and actually has THE PERFECT style to beat Cyborg. Cyborg is aggressive and powerful, but not too refined- that was clearly evident in the Baars fight. Ok, that was a world champion- but she looked amateurish by comparison. Holm has all the tools to give Cyborg hell.

The one question mark is whether she's strong enough to hold off Cyborg's clinch game- and based on how she dealt with Ronda (a clinch specialist) I think she will do fine. She got taken down by Miesha- but the big difference is, Miesha is a solid wrestler. Unlike Ronda, and Cyborg, she's got a very decent single and double leg, and she doesn't rely on clinching. Holm showed herself agile enough and powerful enough to deny Ronda any success in the clinch, and I think there's every chance she does the same against Cyborg.

But I guess we'll find out soon.
 
tat2man5k said:
This. Yes, I'm a big Cyborg fan, but to think she's not the best WMMA fighter BY FAR is insane.
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Why? Because of her wins over Coenen and Carano? Because she sure as hell has no other notable wins.

If she loses to Holm, her entire 'legacy' is ruined, because she has no big victories to fall back on. This match is actually huge for her, because a win truly legitimises her. There is no evidence whatsoever yet to support her being better than the current WMMA fighters.

It's the same problem with Fedor- the only difference being that Fedor actually beat some solid UFC level fighters, which backs up his claim a lot more. Cyborg hasn't even got that yet.
 
Echo_Bliss said:
Forget her training videos, her fight with Gina Carano shows she was taken down easily and handled easily, Carano would have won that if she didn't get stupid and stand it back up.
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You're seriously using a fight from 2009 as an example?
 
DysDave said:
Why? Because of her wins over Coenen and Carano? Because she sure as hell has no other notable wins.

If she loses to Holm, her entire 'legacy' is ruined, because she has no big victories to fall back on. This match is actually huge for her, because a win truly legitimises her. There is no evidence whatsoever yet to support her being better than the current WMMA fighters.

It's the same problem with Fedor- the only difference being that Fedor actually beat some solid UFC level fighters, which backs up his claim a lot more. Cyborg hasn't even got that yet.
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Maybe, and because of the ease in which she's done it. No one has even given her trouble...and before the steroid comment gets thrown in there, that's beside the point. She has literally been in zero trouble since her 1st fight. Now that she's in the UFC, she's fighting the competition that people have been pissing and moaning about, or at least trying to.
 
DysDave said:
See here's the problem. I get it if you think Cyborg's going to win. But how can anyone with knowledge of MMA claim to not see how Holly can win? That's ridiculous. She's a phenomenal boxer and kickboxer, has been fighting at a high level for decades, and actually has THE PERFECT style to beat Cyborg. Cyborg is aggressive and powerful, but not too refined- that was clearly evident in the Baars fight. Ok, that was a world champion- but she looked amateurish by comparison. Holm has all the tools to give Cyborg hell.

The one question mark is whether she's strong enough to hold off Cyborg's clinch game- and based on how she dealt with Ronda (a clinch specialist) I think she will do fine. She got taken down by Miesha- but the big difference is, Miesha is a solid wrestler. Unlike Ronda, and Cyborg, she's got a very decent single and double leg, and she doesn't rely on clinching. Holm showed herself agile enough and powerful enough to deny Ronda any success in the clinch, and I think there's every chance she does the same against Cyborg.

But I guess we'll find out soon.
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Your analysis makes a lot of sense, and I would agree if we were talking about anyone other than Cyborg. I just think that she is head and shoulders above any other woman I've ever seen in combat sport, and no matter how much technique her opponent may have, the raw power and killer instinct she brings into a fight is in my opinion too much for the rest of these women.

The Baars kickboxing match was not a "fight"... Holly Holm might beat Cyborg in a point karate, or kickboxing match too. But in MMA Cyborg is a killer, and Holm, well she can be at times, against certain types of opponents... but she's also inconsistent, and very beatable at times. I've never seen this in Cyborg. I've never seen her show much weakness, and I've never seen her not completely dominate her opponent.

When I watch the other women move, throw strikes, takedowns, etc., I mean they're all well trained and there's technique and all, but I still just see women punching like women. When I watch Cyborg it's something completely different, I just cant see anyone beating her, and I'm already feeling sorry for Holly and the beating she's gonna take, but props to her for at least accepting the fight that no one wanted, and with good reason.
 
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