Corporate America abandoning the NRA

Regardless if you're pro-gun or anti-gun...corporate environments shouldn't be associated with weapons anymore than be associated with abortion beliefs.
 
That's honesty not that much. Obviously all that money can't go into lobbying, some of it has to go into operating costs like salaries.

Michael Bloomberg, a staunch anti-gun donor who set up his own anti-gun non-profit, is worth $52.1 billion on his own.

There still is an incredible imbalance in funding and spending -

In the 2018 election cycle so far, gun rights groups, including the NRA, have outspent the competition more than 40 to 1.
Gun rights groups have made nearly $600,000 in direct contributions and independent expenditures on behalf of congressional candidates, the data shows. Gun control groups? Barely $14,000.

Now watch this: When you look at the long-term relationships that gun rights groups have built with members of Congress, you find that nearly $13 million has flowed into congressional campaigns from the gun rights side over the course of current lawmakers' careers. From gun control advocates, by comparison, the figure just over $570,000.

The sheer breadth of campaign support provided by the NRA alone over the years helps explain just how deeply the organization is ingrained in the election universe.

Amongthe 535 current members of Congress in both the House and the Senate, 307 have received either direct campaign contributions from the NRA and its affiliates or benefited from independent NRA spending like advertising supporting their campaigns.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/23/politics/nra-political-money-clout/index.html

The National Rifle Association saw a 10 percent bump in revenue during election year 2016, but also spent $42 million more than it earned, according to a financial statement given to members at last week’s annual conference.

The statement consolidates revenue and expenses from six NRA-affiliated organizations, including its political action committee, according to the statement. It lists $433.9 million for total revenue and other support along with $475.9 million in expenses.

However, the NRA carried over monies from the year before. At the end of 2015, the NRA had approximately $42 million remaining after expenses, according to the statement.
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Leading up to the 2016 election, the NRA also spent more than $30 million in support of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, who has maintained a close relationship with the organization since becoming president.

According to the statement, the NRA generated the majority of its revenue from membership dues, $163.5 million, down about $2 million, and contributions, $171 million, up 24 percent, in 2016. Program fees accounted for the third largest amount with $69 million, up $4 million. And investments, royalties and assets accounted for approximately $30 million.

http://www.guns.com/2017/05/05/nra-revenue-expenses-in-2016/

The problem isn't the NRA, its the constituents of Senators and Governors who don't support gun control. The left needs to stop playing up the NRA boogeyman and confront the fact that their policy proposals are legitimately unpopular among many Americans.

Polling certainly disagrees with this sentiment - And yet nothing is done.

Many of the proposals currently circulating among lawmakers received majority support in the poll, although President Donald Trump's pitch to arm more teachers garnered lukewarm backing.

Among those: 87% support increased funding for mental health screenings; 75% support strengthening background checks on gun buyers; 56% support a ban on bump stocks; and 53% support a nationwide ban on the AR-15. The proposal to arm some teachers, offered by Trump and some Republicans, received 44% support.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/23/poli...aw-support-trump-parkland-shooting/index.html

American voters support stricter gun laws 66 - 31 percent, the highest level of support ever measured by the independent Quinnipiac University National Poll, with 50 - 44 percent support among gun owners and 62 - 35 percent support from white voters with no college degree and 58 - 38 percent support among white men.

Today's result is up from a negative 47 - 50 percent measure of support in a December 23, 2015, survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University Poll.

Support for universal background checks is itself almost universal, 97 - 2 percent, including 97 - 3 percent among gun owners. Support for gun control on other questions is at its highest level since the Quinnipiac University Poll began focusing on this issue in the wake of the Sandy Hook massacre:



    • 67 - 29 percent for a nationwide ban on the sale of assault weapons;
    • 83 - 14 percent for a mandatory waiting period for all gun purchases. It is too easy to buy a gun in the U.S. today, American voters say 67 - 3 percent. If more people carried guns, the U.S. would be less safe, voters say 59 - 33 percent. Congress needs to do more to reduce gun violence, voters say 75 - 17 percent.
https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2521

 
they can try trump airlines. Oh wait.
 
This is the part I never understood. These weapons are needed to kill police and soldiers when the govt becomes tyrannical. Who decides that when that is?
To the gunlovers the govt. becomes automatically tyrannical when a Dem. is president, even when nothing changes in reality, see gunsales during Obamas terms.
 
I really don't think the NRAs political donations matter as much as the grades theu give politicians.

Gun nuts look at those ratings and vote based on them.

GOPers aren't blocking gun laws for contributions they are scared of losing in the primaries
 
The NRA is the new Tobacco lobby.

The problem is nobody wants to compromise on guns. I don’t want them banned just a little more regulation, but when I mention regulation you get labeled as a gun banner.

Just like Fakes News is great for Trump because any true negative articles he can label fake, any gun regulation can be spinners as “they want to takes our guns” 300 million guns in the US ain’t nobody taking them because that is impossible.
Also 3 D printing is going to be a while mother set of issues.
 
The NRA is the new Tobacco lobby.
This comparison isn't accurate.

Many like to compare the NRA to the tobacco or alcohol manufacturers Lobby. In reality, the NRA would be more analogous to a beer drinkers Lobby.

The Firearms industry and Firearms manufacturers has a lobbying group. It's name is the National Shooting Sports Foundation. That is the lobbyist for firearms manufacturers.

The National Rifle Association lobbies for the expansion of individual rights. The NRA is a lobby for gun owners.


Also 3 D printing is going to be a while mother set of issues.
Homemade Firearms have already been a hobby to some.

A person can assemble a fully functioning firearm with $20 worth of supplies bought at a local hardware store.



3D printing will make complete civilian disarmament even less of a reality.
 
The NRA is the new Tobacco lobby.

The problem is nobody wants to compromise on guns. I don’t want them banned just a little more regulation, but when I mention regulation you get labeled as a gun banner.

Just like Fakes News is great for Trump because any true negative articles he can label fake, any gun regulation can be spinners as “they want to takes our guns” 300 million guns in the US ain’t nobody taking them because that is impossible.
Also 3 D printing is going to be a while mother set of issues.
"Just a little more regulation"

And when that isn't enough to stop an attack, what's your next solution?

The only solution is to repeal the 2nd Amendment and forcibly confiscate all guns. Everything else is uconstitutional, merely a band-aid to the problem, and helps to undermine all other Amendments.
 
The NRA members delusionally believe that their personal guns will allow them to resist a "Tyrannical Govt." The ironic part is that NRA members are die hard supporters of the agents of the supposedly tyrannical Govt.(Law enforcement and the Military)

Neither of which would ever go along with such an absurd thing.
 
how many of these stories get the same amount of national attention



That dude was shot multiple times yet still managed to rip the gun out of the woman's hands and pistol whip her.

This is why you empty your clip into a perp.
 
That dude was shot multiple times yet still managed to rip the gun out of the woman's hands and pistol whip her.

This is why you empty your clip into a perp.
agreed and just one or two more sensible guns laws would stop this guy from robbing people with a sawed off shotgun


Also a strong argument for hi capacity semi-autos
 
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Polling certainly disagrees with this sentiment - And yet nothing is done.

Many of the proposals currently circulating among lawmakers received majority support in the poll, although President Donald Trump's pitch to arm more teachers garnered lukewarm backing.

Among those: 87% support increased funding for mental health screenings; 75% support strengthening background checks on gun buyers; 56% support a ban on bump stocks; and 53% support a nationwide ban on the AR-15. The proposal to arm some teachers, offered by Trump and some Republicans, received 44% support.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/23/poli...aw-support-trump-parkland-shooting/index.html

American voters support stricter gun laws 66 - 31 percent, the highest level of support ever measured by the independent Quinnipiac University National Poll, with 50 - 44 percent support among gun owners and 62 - 35 percent support from white voters with no college degree and 58 - 38 percent support among white men.

Today's result is up from a negative 47 - 50 percent measure of support in a December 23, 2015, survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University Poll.

Support for universal background checks is itself almost universal, 97 - 2 percent, including 97 - 3 percent among gun owners. Support for gun control on other questions is at its highest level since the Quinnipiac University Poll began focusing on this issue in the wake of the Sandy Hook massacre:



    • 67 - 29 percent for a nationwide ban on the sale of assault weapons;
    • 83 - 14 percent for a mandatory waiting period for all gun purchases. It is too easy to buy a gun in the U.S. today, American voters say 67 - 3 percent. If more people carried guns, the U.S. would be less safe, voters say 59 - 33 percent. Congress needs to do more to reduce gun violence, voters say 75 - 17 percent.
https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2521

The electorate as a whole is one thing but we don't put these issues up to a referendum. I'm talking about the constituents of Republicans specifically. Sure many people support gun control but many of them vote in Dems who push for it while those who don't vote, or those for whom its not a deciding vote and prioritize other conservative issues, vote in Republicans who resist it. Besides, support for gun control fluctuates a lot depending on whether or not one of these shootings occurs.
 
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agreed and just one or two more sensible guns laws would stop this guy from robbing people with a sawed off shotgun
Maybe more regulations are in order too. I mean, if they would just ban vises and saws you couldn't cut the barrel off of a shotgun.
 
When did the NRA say they were pro mass shooting?
when you can buy these:
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at NRA sponsored events....

/got nuthin'
 
When did the NRA say they were pro mass shooting?

Some people accuse the Catholic church of being "pro AIDS" in Africa because they preach against the use of condoms in that country.

Technically, no. Practically, yes.

Same with the NRA and mass shootings.
 
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Some people accuse the Catholic church of being "pro AIDS" because they preach against the use of condoms.

Technically, no. Practically, yes.

Same with the NRA and mass shootings.

Wow I didn’t know I was pro aids
 
The problem is nobody wants to compromise on guns.
This is true of Democrats as well. The GOP, with NRA support, offered a compromise on the issue of "no fly, no buy" in the aftermath of the Orlando shootings and Dems rejected it.
 
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