Cops arrest 2 black men for no reason in Starbucks

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  1. The Russian

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    They had a valid reason to be there, they were waiting for a friend, who did show up. After the manager asked them to leave and they explained they were waiting for a friend, they may have thought that explanation was enough and would not have assumed they still needed to leave.

    Maybee @panamaican might know about the legal aspects
    Does a manager or store employee have the right to ask someone to leave without a valid reason? A store is not a private home, it is a venue that invites in the public.
     
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    The right has been into identity politics for a hell of a lot longer. What do you think the "Southern Strategy" is . What do you think Trump was doing when he pandered to White Nationalists. What do you think Segregation was and the response from social / Christian conservatives.
     
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    But what if you are going to order something when your friend shows up. These guys weren't homeless people just sitting there, they waited for a friend, who did show up.
     
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    Nice knee jerk whataboutism buddy.
     
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    Yes, everything happens to black people simply because they're black...
     
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    Interview with Starbucks CEO:
     
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    Well maybe the term "hoodrat" is with regards to how they decide to act within society which according to you, seems to be slightly "off" the norm.

    As you said, when faced with the same situation, you seem to be polite and non combative enough to have either bought something or left the store...where as they felt entitled to defy the manager of the establishment and carry on by their own rules.

    I wouldn't call that a hoodrat though, I'd call that an asshole.
     
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    Thats because white males in their 30s tend to buy coffee and not simply hang around caffes without buying shit.
     
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    I googled the right to refuse service and a company or buisness absolutely has that right provided they are consistent regardless of race or relligion or sex.

    So unless you can prove that they are not asking anyone else not black who is loitering to leave, you don't have a leg to stand on.

    And since that wouldn't be common knowledge...if someone asks you to leave...you fucking leave.
     
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    I think the difference here is that I am saying it's not usually a habitual thing, but it does happen, especially if you are on the road and not near your home. I don't think someone is trash for needing to use the bathroom or wifi somewhere without buying anything, as long as it's not excessive. If it's a habit or done on purpose, sure then I think you might have a point.. but if you have traveled before, you know situations arise where it could and does happen.
     
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    The management had a right to legally ask them to leave and trespass them if they don't.

    What company policy is may be something different or get changed now.
     
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    And you if you have manners buy something in most cases.
     
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    Agreed. It definitely is courteous.
     
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    i basically tapped out of this as my willingness to discuss race issues usually doesnt last long. however, as a final point i would liketo say this....it seems that many who think this is no big deal are choosing to just ignore certain aspects as that obviously puts in doubt your claim that there was nothing abnormal about what happened at all

    - nobody is claiming that a store can ask you to leave if you don't buy anything
    - what is being questioned is why THOSE 2 MEN were the ones chosen to be told to leave when nobody else is. Not from Subway. Not from some random restaurant, but from STARBUCKS. People are being willfully ignorant that Starbucks is all about hanging out with or without purchases.
    - now the exception would be if they were homeless or something. These men were not.
    - another exception would be if they were acting up. no patrons said they were.

    So all these pages in and nobody has answered why THESE 2 GUYS were chosen to be booted other than people assuming they were acting like assholes with no witnesses backing that up.

    also, i have read many people saying they jumped to the race card immediately. i could be wrong, but have these guys even spoken out yet? because i havent heard a single thing saying they played the race card
     

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