Conor vs Floyd under K1 and Kickboxings potential.

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  1. Julius_Caesar Brown Belt

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    I was thinking about this the other day after the speculation going around about a rematch between floyd and conor which under boxing makes no sense. I dont see how they will make good money off a boxing rematch. Under boxing its unfair for conor and under mma its unfair for floyd yet no one brings up kickboxing. That's something that makes sense since they're both somewhat meeting in the middle.

    Floyd could bring in a couple southpaws like Sittichai and Wei Rui as sparring partners. You could even throw them both on the under card sittichai vs Max Holloway and Wei Rui vs Cody Garbrandt. Now you have the attention of the Chinese and the Thai's.

    But there seems to be a common theme in the US. Its either mma or boxing and no middle ground yet the majority of complaints MMA gets is the ground game and the majority of complaints boxing gets is it being limited. That makes a sport like kickboxing seem perfect so it confuses me why it doesn't get promoted more in the states.

    I always come across people in real life and even on this subforum asking why kickboxing isn't popular? That goes to show the sport has huge potential but needs the right push. The Chinese, Japanese and European market kickboxing already has added on to an American market could do some damage.

    Look at all these countries and good fighters who can fight at the same weight:

    Thailand: Sittichai Sitsongpeenong
    Italy: Giorgio Petrosyan
    France: Dylan Salvador
    Germany: Enriko Kehl
    Russia: Khayal Dzhaniev
    Holland: Robin Van Roosmalen
    China: Qiu Jianliang
    Japan: Yasuhiro Kido
    Belarus: Chingiz Allazov
    Morocco: Mohamed Mezouari
    Belgium: Marat Grigorian
    Spain: Nayanesh Ayman
    UK: Jordan Watson

    National pride sells and a promotion like the UFC (for example) could have most of these guys fight in a 70kg kb tournament in a cage with mma gloves. Maybe you could even throw in Ireland represented by Conor McGregor since he's known for his "great striking", bring in an American UFC fighter with good striking and even Jose Aldo could represent Brazil. That shit would make tons of money but instead I'm hearing how UFC want to start promoting boxing as if they forgot about the middle ground.
     
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    LOL

    That is all.
     
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  3. Julius_Caesar Brown Belt

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    Seems like the type of comment people usually make when they don't have anything useful to add.
     
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    nothing close to this could happen for thousands of reasons
     
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    We are strugging to get kickboxing and muay thai popular in the states.

    Superkombat just signed a deal with an american broadcasting company
    Lionfight is on AXS tv
    Glory is on ESPN and FightPass
    Bellator KB is on Spike

    American fans are just fickle. They like what they like, and they don't know why they like it exactly, they just do. I've tried to show MMA fans and Boxing fans kickboxing and muay thai and they just don't "get it."

    Anyway Floyd wouldn't risk his health or his ' good name ' to get involved in kickboxing.
     
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    I have nothing useful to add.......something you and I have in common.
     
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  7. Julius_Caesar Brown Belt

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    It was only an example of one of the ways to promote kickboxing. If Conor and Floyd ever do rematch like some have been speculating kickboxing is the rule set that makes the most sense.
     
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  8. Julius_Caesar Brown Belt

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    Then don't comment.
     
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    Realise your "idea" was terrible. Learn from your mistake. Move on from your error a better person.


    You are very very welcome.
     
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    If Conor and Floyd goes for a second fight,it would be one and only boxing,Floyd wouldnt fight MMA because there is no money to offer him and his sport is boxing,his made his name by being undefeated in it

    Floyd is the A side on negotiation and conor is like the C side,it is floyd who show the options and not the UFC or Conor.

    There is no way to promote kickboxing on US to create something big like you think for these points:


    1) There is no good level kickboxing in USA.

    2)No good kickboxing Athletes in USA,No way to compete against the kickboxing good level worldwide.

    3)People from any country(especially USA) gets interested in a sport when there are good national representants,otherwise it cant generate interest for the giant casual public and market viability.

    4)The way Boxing and MMA are promoted in US and haves success with it is because the country is a big potence in both sports and also the "WWE" way to promote fights with a lot of trash talking and narcissistic exhibitionism are a thing in there,Kickboxing fighters are not used to this "system" and a lot of them are not even 100 % fluent in english.

    5) They couldnt Generate a big country attention when you have highy ranked athletes from all Europe,Asia,Some parts of africa and pretty much no americans-British guys.

    6) It isnt economically safe to some org invest tons of money in it,the risk of it getting below of the expectations are obviously 100%, so it is a big waste of money.


    7)They would have to try to develop "personality" of a lot highly ranked athletes from different cultures and it wouldnt work as expected, Boxing and especially MMA is not just about a fighting sports in US,is a lot about the "drama" and "what is going to happen when these to who hate each other fight in the ring"-.


    8) Can you imagine this:




    "I am going to tear his head off"
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    "I own Kickboxing"

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    "We’re not just here to take part , we’re here to take over."


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    "I will kill this guy tomorrow"

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    "I'll fight them all. Men, women, children, retared people it doesn't matter, if you hit me we're gonna fight"

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    "you are bum "

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  11. Julius_Caesar Brown Belt

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    Its not a terrible idea. Maybe a little unrealistic but not terrible. You're just over exaggerating like a hormonal teenage girl.

    You comment like your top lip stinks and the smell is effecting your sentences. What does this mean?
     
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    Kickboxing makes no sense against a finesse boxer with pillow hands.
     
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  13. Julius_Caesar Brown Belt

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    Wasn't that one of Conor's selling points before he got TKO'd? That Floyd had brittle pillow hands? Looked to me like floyd had a lot more power in his punches when they fought.
     
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  14. spacetime Brown Belt

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    No, he simply mauled him down. He won't have time for that in Kickboxing. Only power punchers stand a chance.
     
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  15. Julius_Caesar Brown Belt

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    No he carried him into the latter rounds.

    Where are you getting your info from? You couldn't be more wrong.
     
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  16. spacetime Brown Belt

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    A finesse boxer can't just jab and circle. He will get the shit kicked out of him.
     
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  17. Julius_Caesar Brown Belt

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    If you think that's all Floyd can do then you're a casual fan. And Conors kicks are not that good.
     
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  18. spacetime Brown Belt

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    What rules exactly do you propose? How does Floyds legs last low kicks? Even if he trains for a few months it wont be sufficient. Shannon Briggs said he had to KO the guy.. He could not take one more low kick despite preparing. And he faced a wrestler.
     
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    Floyd would never agree to it. Maybe Canelo would.
     
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  20. spacetime Brown Belt

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    Mike Tyson refused to fight K1 rules against Bob Sapp. Bob Sapp!
     
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