Conor McGregor destroys Draymond green and Floyd

Those years and years of training really helped Aldo out when he fought Conor. It was incredible right? Single punch destroyed the best fighter in the entire division. Wow.

Now imagine at 230lb Conor connecting on a 145lb Aldo. Call the Coroner.

Explain a rookie Jon Jones smashing guys with thousands and thousands of hours of more training than him. Howd that work out?

Again you're using examples purely made up of very well trained pro fighters and continuing to appreciate the talent of them, for example you calling them incredible and the best just now.

Jones's UFC debut went to a decision, it was his seventh fight and Gusmao's fifth.

Aldo's rookie mistake is made nearly every time a nonfighter swings in a fight, even against another nonfighter; when they pull that shit against a fighter—especially one like Conor—it's going to end like it did just about every single time.
 
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A unanimous, dominating decision, against a guy his same weight. Next fight he dominated a solid veteran and contender.
If he fought a ten year veteran that weighed 60 pounds less, he would have killed him. With very little experience. Why?

Because size matters just as much as training and talent.

Training can only do so much.
 
Again you're using examples purely made up of very well trained pro fighters and continuing to appreciate the talent of them, for example you calling them incredible and the best just now.

Jones's UFC debut went to a decision, it was his seventh fight and Gusmao's fifth.

Aldo's rookie mistake is made nearly every time a nonfighter swings in a fight, even against another nonfighter; when they pull that shit against a fighter—especially one like Conor—it's going to end like it did just about every single time.

Rookie mistake made by a veteran in his prime. Happens a lot.

Conor gassed in less than two rounds against Diaz and tapped. Another rookie mistake?
Imagine if Nick was a LHW? One round fight. Call the ambulance.

Lots of mistakes for seriously trained fighters. Just because you train does not mean every fight will go your way.

Shit happens. Fighting someone nearly 50% heavier than you will vastly increase those dangers.
 
Rookie mistake made by a veteran in his prime. Happens a lot.

Conor gassed in less than two rounds against Diaz and tapped. Another rookie mistake?
Imagine if Nick was a LHW? One round fight. Call the ambulance.

Lots of mistakes for seriously trained fighters. Just because you train does not mean every fight will go your way.

Shit happens. Fighting someone nearly 50% heavier than you will vastly increase those dangers.

You don't know the difference between Nick and Nate and believe it takes nothing but weight reach and height for a nonfighter to beat a professional fighter in a one on one, and even elite veterans of the top tier MMA promotion?

Yeah fighters get nerves against other veteran fighters and it gets further amplified by Conor's shit talking as well as less and occasionally worse.

When you're a seriously trained FIGHTER every fight will go your way if it's one on one vs a NONFIGHTER. There's nothing upsetting or groundbreaking about that. If you train anything, you're better at it than everyone who hasn't tried shit even related to it, no shit
 
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Against other veteran fighters where they get those nerves and it gets further amplified by Conor's shit talking as well as less and occasionally worse.

When you're a seriously trained FIGHTER every fight will go your way if it's one on one vs a NONFIGHTER. There's nothing upsetting or groundbreaking about that. If you train anything, you're better at it than everyone who hasn't tried shit even related to it, no shit

Training can only do so much. That is why there are weight classes to keep things on a level playing field.

There is no shame in losing to an amateur who towers over you by nearly a foot and outweighs you by 75lbs. You're only human.
 
Training can only do so much. That is why there are weight classes to keep things on a level playing field.

There is no shame in losing to an amateur who towers over you by nearly a foot and outweighs you by 75lbs. You're only human.

Against others with comparable experience, yes. Ever heard of what happened during the first UFC events? Horrible one dimensional fighters by today's standards were getting wrecked by those more experienced no matter the size difference.

So now amateur instead of nonfighter which the discussion started as or professional fighter which is where the discussion turned to? Of course the competitors are human, they're people who are good at fighting not everyone else who are nonfighters that are only human and by comparison are made of glass and have a seemingly endless list of weaknesses that continue from that huge one already specified. Every maneuver they attempt will lack refined technique, and have no efficacy against a well trained fighter, no shit.

Go to an MMA gym, at least earn a belt in BJJ, or commit to No-Gi. Sparring isn't a fight but barely anyone, no matter their physical and mental assets, has the potential to spar, much less fight and hopefully you'd see that with experience since you haven't understood this simple shit yet, there's no shame in losing a contest you might as well have never even heard of, none at all no matter what, especially against seasoned vets who you're obviously hopeless against.

Pros know this, amateurs are amateurs and not pros for a reason and newbies can't/don't try without training and maybe even becoming an ammy first because that's insane, like what Conor is trying against Mayweather even though they're both combat sport competitors but it's because it's a completely different combat sport where Connor has no professional experience whatsoever.
 
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Against others with comparable experience, yes. Ever heard of what happened during the first UFC events? Horrible one dimensional fighters by today's standards were getting wrecked by those more experienced no matter the size difference.

So now amateur instead of nonfighter which the discussion started as or professional fighter which is where the discussion turned to? Of course the competitors are human, they're people who are good at fighting not everyone else who are nonfighters that are only human and by comparison are made of glass and have a seemingly endless list of weaknesses that continue from that huge one already specified. Every maneuver they attempt will lack refined technique, and have no efficacy against a well trained fighter, no shit.

Go to an MMA gym, at least earn a belt in BJJ, or commit to No-Gi. Sparring isn't a fight but barely anyone, no matter their physical and mental assets, has the potential to spar, much less fight and hopefully you'd see that with experience since you haven't understood this simple shit yet, there's no shame in losing a contest you might as well have never even heard of, none at all no matter what, especially against seasoned vets who you're obviously hopeless against.

Pros know this, amateurs are amateurs and not pros for a reason and newbies can't/don't try without training and maybe even becoming an ammy first because that's insane, like what Conor is trying against Mayweather even though they're both combat sport competitors but it's because it's a completely different combat sport where Connor has no professional experience whatsoever.

Sorry, size matters also. Athleticism matters, talent matters. And of course, training and experience matter.

The mere fact that one is a trained fighter does not guarantee victory. Pro's get Ko'd by cans all the time, right? And winning gets harder the bigger your opponent gets, especially in this extreme case.
 
Sorry, size matters also. Athleticism matters, talent matters. And of course, training and experience matter.

The mere fact that one is a trained fighter does not guarantee victory. Pro's get Ko'd by cans all the time, right? And winning gets harder the bigger your opponent gets, especially in this extreme case.

You haven't stopped insisting that established pro fighters beating other established pro fighters means nonfighters beat fighters. I'm not going to apologize for knowing that they never do and never will.

Physical attributes alone don't make a fighter, you posted yourself "of course training and experience matter" while continuing to inexplicably shit all over it. Becoming a fighter of any worth at all is something that takes time and quality training. Rewatch those vids showing how your A level athlete gods are human just like us and aren't born as elite mixed martial artists who counter any and all manuevers attempted by seasoned professional champion mixed martial artists that your apparent extreme fanboyism makes them out to be.

Cans? Cans are what you call past their prime journeymen or in Sherdogs case all seasoned vets and anyone not being marketed as a contender so basically anyone outside the top 10. Of course seasoned vets win.

Where are you getting this from btw? Winning is only hard if your opponent can make it hard, with refined technique displaying proper positioning and battle for it, TDD, head movement, setting up their combos and being able to pot shot, counter and counter their opponents counters, adapt on the fly by having more than one strategy and a tactical mind, have scrambling ability, you can't just be a one trick pony literally. Having height weight and reach doesn't count as a trick when you can't do shit cause you don't know shit cause you haven't been trained in shit. No shit.

Lol at considering a skill gap as wide as it gets being a mere fact but than lionizing large men by glorifying height, weight, and reach to the point that I wonder if you think Struve or Browne are going to take the title soon. At least Struve beat Stipe once before, are you happy about that considering you keep using pro fighters to prove nonfighters can fight?

They can't, and they don't need to, I don't see why you need to believe they're able to pull off what other pro fighters haven't, without any training in combat sports at all. You do know loads of men don't even bother to properly make a fist, right? Do you know how easily nonfighters wrists and knuckles break from landing wrong because they weren't taught to nor did they hear of a Boxers fracture before. You aren't fooling anyone, not even yourself and you haven't even trained in any combat sport for so much as a single day of you life obviously.

A MasterChef prepares food better than all nonchefs everytime. Are you going to deny that too? It's the same fucking thing because a nonchef isn't a chef, dude. I don't understand how you can't see this expert beats random rule doesn't apply everytime, that's just life dude, don't play pretend.
 
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You haven't stopped insisting that established pro fighters beating other established pro fighters means nonfighters beat fighters. I'm not going to apologize for knowing that they never do and never will.

Physical attributes alone don't make a fighter, it's a long process that takes time and quality training. Rewatch those vids showing how your A level athlete gods are human just like us and aren't born as elite mixed martial artists who counter any and all manuevers attempted by seasoned professional champion mixed martial artists that your extreme fanboyism makes them out to be.

Cans? Cans are what you call past their prime journeymen or in Sherdogs case all seasoned vets and anyone not being marketed as a contender so basically anyone outside the top 10. Of course seasoned vets win.

Where are you getting this from btw? Winning is only hard if your opponent can make it hard, with refined technique displaying proper positioning and battle for it, TDD, head movement, setting up their combos and being able to pot shot, counter and counter their opponents counters, adapt on the fly by having more than one strategy and a tactical mind, have scrambling ability, you can't just be a one trick pony literally. Having height weight and reach doesn't count as a trick when you can't do shit cause you don't know shit cause you haven't been trained in shit. No shit.

Lol at you considering a skill gap as wide as it gets being a mere fact but than lionizing large men by glorifying height, weight, and reach to the point that I wonder if you think Struve or Browne are going to take the title soon. At least Struve beat Stipe once before, are you happy about that considering you keep using pro fighters to prove nonfighters can fight?

They can't, and they don't need to, I don't see why you need to believe they're able to pull off what other pro fighters haven't, without any training in combat sports at all. You do know loads of men don't even bother to properly make a fist, right? Do you know how easily nonfighters wrists and knuckles break from landing wrong because they weren't taught to nor did they hear of a Boxers fracture before. You aren't fooling anyone, not even yourself.

A MasterChef prepares food better than all nonchefs everytime. Are you going to deny that too? It's the same fucking thing because a nonchef isn't a chef, dude. I don't understand how you can't see this expert beats random rule doesn't apply everytime, that's just life dude, don't play pretend.


You're beginning to just ramble nonsense. Im not talking about random nobodies or people so ignorant they have lived in a bubble.

Im talking about Mr. Greene. 6'8, 230lbs, top athlete, strong, tough, fast, excellent cardio. Im willing to bet he knows how to make a fist and has taken a few hard punches and elbows in his lifetime.
I have very little fear he would be overtaken by any 155lb fighter.
 
You're beginning to just ramble nonsense. Im not talking about random nobodies or people so ignorant they have lived in a bubble.

Im talking about Mr. Greene. 6'8, 230lbs, top athlete, strong, tough, fast, excellent cardio. Im willing to bet he knows how to make a fist and has taken a few hard punches and elbows in his lifetime.
I have very little fear he would be overtaken by any 155lb fighter.
What does YOUR fear have to do with anything? That word choice can come across very revealing as well as some nonfighter like you claiming sharing facts is rambling nonsense when all you've done for the past five or so posts and this one is reference pro fighters to back up your shit attempt at arguing that new people beat experts at their own craft purely due to their build. They might as well be nobodies when it's a sport they've never tried before, just like everybody else, that's obvious as it gets.

You literally typed out the words "I'm talking about Mr.Greene" like a weirdo, detailed his height and weight before mentioning his athleticism and then made shit up before talking about how you don't fear for him going against a professional fighter trained to be able to finish fights standing and on the ground whether or not the fight is going their way. You don't understand this, you don't understand the difference between Nick & Nate Diaz because despite only barely being a fan of ballsports you champion them and shit on MMA which you do a horrible job claiming to be a fan of and pretending to understand and you also called the post that included a description of a short list of why nonfighters don't know how to fight, nonsense. That's fucking nonsense.
 
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What does YOUR fear have to do with anything? That word choice can come across very revealing as well as some nonfighter like you claiming sharing facts is rambling nonsense when all you've done for the past five or so posts and this one is reference pro fighters to back up your shit attempt at arguing that new people beat experts at their own craft purely due to their build. They might as well be nobodies when it's a sport they've never tried before, just like everybody else, that's obvious as it gets.

You literally typed out the words "I'm talking about Mr.Greene" like a weirdo, detailed his height and weight before mentioning his athleticism and then made shit up before talking about how you don't fear for him going against a professional fighter trained to be able to finish fights standing and on the ground whether or not the fight is going their way. That's fucking nonsense.
Sorry, but the majority of people agree with me on this.
You have this idea that just because someone knows MMA they will automatically win every single encounter with someone who is not professionally trained.

My point is simple. There other factors you seem to completly disregard, like size, strength, talent, and toughness.

Why.
 
Sorry, but the majority of people agree with me on this.
You have this idea that just because someone knows MMA they will automatically win every single encounter with someone who is not professionally trained.

My point is simple. There other factors you seem to completly disregard, like size, strength, talent, and toughness.

Why.
Not just MMA, any combat sport. Of course any serious competitor in any combat sport beats any nonfighter. No fucking duh, might as well be 99 percent of the world populace that when in a fight against a trained fighter from any combat sport, might as well be made of glass. They will break their hands if they land that sloppy slow ass sorry excuse of a haymaker because they don't know how to properly throw nor land a punch. That's one out of the myriad of what they aren't familiar with when it comes to a fight, especially a serious one against a professional fighter. Fighters are rare and trained, not born.

What majority and what people? Are you talking about nonfighters who's opinions are worthless at best when it comes to a meaningful discussion about fighting? Are these nonfighters also basement dwelling neckbearded keyboard warriors? No self respecting fight analysts of merit would ever agree with this sorry ass fantasy you're so wet for claiming that basketball players are somehow unbeatable in fights against WWs and below.

You act like all MMA fighters can't use their own size, strength, talent and toughness. Not that they need it with the comical skill gap which renders their opponents physical traits nonpertinent.

Fighters are the only ones with serious talent for fighting and possessing the levels of toughness they need in order to fight at the levels they do. That's why they're fighters, because unlike most people they're as good as they are at it and that much better than everyone else at it. Same with all respected competitors in all sports, they're where they are because they aren't just like everyone else when and only when they do that. Every other sport has fans that live in reality and respect them, but this sport has websites dedicated to it like this one where the populace is for the most part a cesspool filled with hatemongers with no grasp on reality and no respect for the fighters that entertain them.
 
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This fight would end in 30 seconds if the Mountain wanted to hurt him.
 
This fight would end in 30 seconds if the Mountain wanted to hurt him.


With sloppy, slow, naked attempts of any few moves he could think of without any training?


Everything is wrong with every move a nonfighter makes.

So much wrong with each strike their left and right fists and elbows, left and right shins that they ignore in favor of their weak ass feet, without likely attempting any teeps or side kicks with their heel (for the better though), no grappling experience of note which leads to a helpless bottom game and shitty sorry excuse of a top game.

This is a short list of what's wrong with ANY nonfighter btw, barely getting into all that's wrong with nonfighters lack of technique.

You're inexplicably desperate to prove a nonfighters merit as a fighter. That's a fruitless endeavor.
 
He had full control of him in 15 seconds. After that he's done.

Get over it.
 
He had full control of him in 15 seconds. After that he's done.

Get over it.

LMFAO,
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How detached from reality are you? Full control is just about the saddest clinch attempt and technique anyone could see? I thought you were a troll at first, then thought you were a ballsport fanatic who was very stupid, and now it's clear you're wannabe troll who isn't just daft as it gets but also lack anything resembling a grasp of reality.

What amount of mental gymnastics does it take to twist that sad video into the Mountain's favor?

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You've never trained, never fought and aren't a fan of MMA or any combat sport either. Stick to the subforums on here that don't discuss MMA related topics.

Anyone trained for a specific craft is unbeatable in a contest against those who aren't, get over it.
 
"Unbeatable"

Haha. Yes, mr. Kung fu master. Lol.
 
No shit, filthy casual nonfighter. Anytime.
 
You do realize I know you're trolling, right dipshit?

Who in the fucking world while of sound mind would ever seriously think your dribble blows my argument away?

Because your argument hinges on "size and strength don't matter".

If you admit that Draymond would beat Ronda, you admit that size and strength do in fact matter.

If you admit that, you admit that it is not a forgone conclusion that Mighty Mouse kicks Draymonds ass because mighty mouse trains.

Skill is very important, but so is size and strength. There is weight differential at which size and strength begin to over come skill.

If you truly believe that "any trained person beats any untrained person regardless of size and strength", then you simply can't be very bright.
 
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