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any other beginner's class? lol cmon man
First day in his life lol
you can just imagine how these guys would shape up if they were trying and trained longer than an hour
any other beginner's class? lol cmon man
First day in his life lol
you can just imagine how these guys would shape up if they were trying and trained longer than an hour
Those years and years of training really helped Aldo out when he fought Conor. It was incredible right? Single punch destroyed the best fighter in the entire division. Wow.
Now imagine at 230lb Conor connecting on a 145lb Aldo. Call the Coroner.
Explain a rookie Jon Jones smashing guys with thousands and thousands of hours of more training than him. Howd that work out?
Again you're using examples purely made up of very well trained pro fighters and continuing to appreciate the talent of them, for example you calling them incredible and the best just now.
Jones's UFC debut went to a decision, it was his seventh fight and Gusmao's fifth.
Aldo's rookie mistake is made nearly every time a nonfighter swings in a fight, even against another nonfighter; when they pull that shit against a fighter—especially one like Conor—it's going to end like it did just about every single time.
Rookie mistake made by a veteran in his prime. Happens a lot.
Conor gassed in less than two rounds against Diaz and tapped. Another rookie mistake?
Imagine if Nick was a LHW? One round fight. Call the ambulance.
Lots of mistakes for seriously trained fighters. Just because you train does not mean every fight will go your way.
Shit happens. Fighting someone nearly 50% heavier than you will vastly increase those dangers.
Against other veteran fighters where they get those nerves and it gets further amplified by Conor's shit talking as well as less and occasionally worse.
When you're a seriously trained FIGHTER every fight will go your way if it's one on one vs a NONFIGHTER. There's nothing upsetting or groundbreaking about that. If you train anything, you're better at it than everyone who hasn't tried shit even related to it, no shit
Training can only do so much. That is why there are weight classes to keep things on a level playing field.
There is no shame in losing to an amateur who towers over you by nearly a foot and outweighs you by 75lbs. You're only human.
Against others with comparable experience, yes. Ever heard of what happened during the first UFC events? Horrible one dimensional fighters by today's standards were getting wrecked by those more experienced no matter the size difference.
So now amateur instead of nonfighter which the discussion started as or professional fighter which is where the discussion turned to? Of course the competitors are human, they're people who are good at fighting not everyone else who are nonfighters that are only human and by comparison are made of glass and have a seemingly endless list of weaknesses that continue from that huge one already specified. Every maneuver they attempt will lack refined technique, and have no efficacy against a well trained fighter, no shit.
Go to an MMA gym, at least earn a belt in BJJ, or commit to No-Gi. Sparring isn't a fight but barely anyone, no matter their physical and mental assets, has the potential to spar, much less fight and hopefully you'd see that with experience since you haven't understood this simple shit yet, there's no shame in losing a contest you might as well have never even heard of, none at all no matter what, especially against seasoned vets who you're obviously hopeless against.
Pros know this, amateurs are amateurs and not pros for a reason and newbies can't/don't try without training and maybe even becoming an ammy first because that's insane, like what Conor is trying against Mayweather even though they're both combat sport competitors but it's because it's a completely different combat sport where Connor has no professional experience whatsoever.
Sorry, size matters also. Athleticism matters, talent matters. And of course, training and experience matter.
The mere fact that one is a trained fighter does not guarantee victory. Pro's get Ko'd by cans all the time, right? And winning gets harder the bigger your opponent gets, especially in this extreme case.
You haven't stopped insisting that established pro fighters beating other established pro fighters means nonfighters beat fighters. I'm not going to apologize for knowing that they never do and never will.
Physical attributes alone don't make a fighter, it's a long process that takes time and quality training. Rewatch those vids showing how your A level athlete gods are human just like us and aren't born as elite mixed martial artists who counter any and all manuevers attempted by seasoned professional champion mixed martial artists that your extreme fanboyism makes them out to be.
Cans? Cans are what you call past their prime journeymen or in Sherdogs case all seasoned vets and anyone not being marketed as a contender so basically anyone outside the top 10. Of course seasoned vets win.
Where are you getting this from btw? Winning is only hard if your opponent can make it hard, with refined technique displaying proper positioning and battle for it, TDD, head movement, setting up their combos and being able to pot shot, counter and counter their opponents counters, adapt on the fly by having more than one strategy and a tactical mind, have scrambling ability, you can't just be a one trick pony literally. Having height weight and reach doesn't count as a trick when you can't do shit cause you don't know shit cause you haven't been trained in shit. No shit.
Lol at you considering a skill gap as wide as it gets being a mere fact but than lionizing large men by glorifying height, weight, and reach to the point that I wonder if you think Struve or Browne are going to take the title soon. At least Struve beat Stipe once before, are you happy about that considering you keep using pro fighters to prove nonfighters can fight?
They can't, and they don't need to, I don't see why you need to believe they're able to pull off what other pro fighters haven't, without any training in combat sports at all. You do know loads of men don't even bother to properly make a fist, right? Do you know how easily nonfighters wrists and knuckles break from landing wrong because they weren't taught to nor did they hear of a Boxers fracture before. You aren't fooling anyone, not even yourself.
A MasterChef prepares food better than all nonchefs everytime. Are you going to deny that too? It's the same fucking thing because a nonchef isn't a chef, dude. I don't understand how you can't see this expert beats random rule doesn't apply everytime, that's just life dude, don't play pretend.
What does YOUR fear have to do with anything? That word choice can come across very revealing as well as some nonfighter like you claiming sharing facts is rambling nonsense when all you've done for the past five or so posts and this one is reference pro fighters to back up your shit attempt at arguing that new people beat experts at their own craft purely due to their build. They might as well be nobodies when it's a sport they've never tried before, just like everybody else, that's obvious as it gets.You're beginning to just ramble nonsense. Im not talking about random nobodies or people so ignorant they have lived in a bubble.
Im talking about Mr. Greene. 6'8, 230lbs, top athlete, strong, tough, fast, excellent cardio. Im willing to bet he knows how to make a fist and has taken a few hard punches and elbows in his lifetime.
I have very little fear he would be overtaken by any 155lb fighter.
Sorry, but the majority of people agree with me on this.What does YOUR fear have to do with anything? That word choice can come across very revealing as well as some nonfighter like you claiming sharing facts is rambling nonsense when all you've done for the past five or so posts and this one is reference pro fighters to back up your shit attempt at arguing that new people beat experts at their own craft purely due to their build. They might as well be nobodies when it's a sport they've never tried before, just like everybody else, that's obvious as it gets.
You literally typed out the words "I'm talking about Mr.Greene" like a weirdo, detailed his height and weight before mentioning his athleticism and then made shit up before talking about how you don't fear for him going against a professional fighter trained to be able to finish fights standing and on the ground whether or not the fight is going their way. That's fucking nonsense.
Not just MMA, any combat sport. Of course any serious competitor in any combat sport beats any nonfighter. No fucking duh, might as well be 99 percent of the world populace that when in a fight against a trained fighter from any combat sport, might as well be made of glass. They will break their hands if they land that sloppy slow ass sorry excuse of a haymaker because they don't know how to properly throw nor land a punch. That's one out of the myriad of what they aren't familiar with when it comes to a fight, especially a serious one against a professional fighter. Fighters are rare and trained, not born.Sorry, but the majority of people agree with me on this.
You have this idea that just because someone knows MMA they will automatically win every single encounter with someone who is not professionally trained.
My point is simple. There other factors you seem to completly disregard, like size, strength, talent, and toughness.
Why.
This fight would end in 30 seconds if the Mountain wanted to hurt him.
He had full control of him in 15 seconds. After that he's done.
Get over it.
You do realize I know you're trolling, right dipshit?
Who in the fucking world while of sound mind would ever seriously think your dribble blows my argument away?