Conor have never pulled out

can't pull out of a fight if you don't ever get one scheduled.
 
Loved that about him

When he fought...

Two years ago...
 
Sapp said:
At least he isn't taking fights then pulling out.
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I'm trying to figure out how this is better. In either instance the end result is you aren't fighting.
 
There's a reason he is biggest mma draw in history. He always shows and his fights are always great to watch. He is a doosh n yeah he doesn't defend but he signs he always shoes n it's always a great show.
 
Taric said:
I'm trying to figure out how this is better. In either instance the end result is you aren't fighting.
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It's much better. Pulling out ruins planning and divisional order (last minute replacements), screws up promotion, damages cards, and is aggravating and disillusioning for fans. I'd rather Holloway not booked a fight at all this year than this seesaw which messed up ufc 222, made the ufc 223 main event a joke, and now fucks up ufc 226. Other fights could have been booked in this spot.
 
LouisBolanos said:
Money >> belt. Belt is just a platform that opens up more money opportunities for 99% of fighters. Conor is the 1% who doesn't need them.
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Now, not then when he fought for said belts and didnt pulled out, fact is he hasnt defended ever, so he has been always the challenger on title fights, not including FW interim, both were contenders back then.
 
Shoot Boxe Hero said:
Can't pull out of a title defense when you literally never even have one scheduled and get stripped of 2 fucking belts due to refusing to defend for no reason
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no reason lol? look at what he did, how much he made. he didn't need to fight. he had a kid. im as frustrated as anyone that he hasn't fought for so long but it's completely understandable.
 
Yes he did pull out at 200, and not for the reason you all think, it absolutely was NOT about media obligations. He loves doing media, its how he makes his brand bigger. It had nothing to do with that. The real reason: he couldn't pass a USADA test so he 'retired' and un-retired to get in and out of the testing pool and UFC swept it under the rug, blamed it on media obligations. You all bought the 'official' story like absolute MARKS.
 
Sapp said:
It's much better. Pulling out ruins planning and divisional order (last minute replacements), screws up promotion, damages cards, and is aggravating and disillusioning for fans. I'd rather Holloway not booked a fight at all this year than this seesaw which messed up ufc 222, made the ufc 223 main event a joke, and now fucks up ufc 226. Other fights could have been booked in this spot.
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The UFC had to book 4 different interim title fights because of Conor McGregor not fighting. Want to know what screws up promotion, damages cards, and is aggravating and disillusioning for fans? Not having a champion in 2 different divisions.
 
Taric said:
The UFC had to book 4 different interim title fights because of Conor McGregor not fighting. Want to know what screws up promotion, damages cards, and is aggravating and disillusioning for fans? Not having a champion in 2 different divisions.
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Ok, but would you have preferred he'd booked fights, they'd built cards around him, and then he pulled out at the last moment, ruining the card? Inactivity as a champion isn't great, but its much better than this card-destroying rampage of pullouts.
 
El Fernas said:
Now, not then when he fought for said belts and didnt pulled out, fact is he hasnt defended ever, so he has been always the challenger on title fights, not including FW interim, both were contenders back then.
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He hasn't defended any belt and still he was the 4th highest paid athlete in 2017 according to Forbes.

Undeniable proof that Conor >>> belt.
 
Sapp said:
Ok, but would you have preferred he'd booked fights, they'd built cards around him, and then he pulled out at the last moment, ruining the card? Inactivity as a champion isn't great, but its much better than this card-destroying rampage of pullouts.
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It's not better and it's not worse. It's the exact same thing in the grand scheme of things.
Holding up a divisions belt is holding up a divisions belt. The only way it's forgivable is if a champion has a freak accident like Frank Mir or something.
 
Taric said:
It's not better and it's not worse. It's the exact same thing in the grand scheme of things.
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It's only the exact same in the sense that Conor fights zero times either way. There are more things to consider here.
Not sure how you're missing all the collateral damage that takes place when you pull out like this. It messes up weeks of promotion, puts the opponent in a tough position and crushes cards. Holloway has done damage to Frankie's career, weakened the UFC 223 main event and Khabib's legitimacy by forcing a desperation pick, and now has diminished the best card of the year.
 
Sapp said:
It's only the exact same in the sense that Conor fights zero times either way. There are more things to consider here.
Not sure how you're missing all the collateral damage that takes place when you pull out like this. It messes up weeks of promotion, puts the opponent in a tough position and crushes cards. Holloway has done damage to Frankie's career, weakened the UFC 223 main event and Khabib's legitimacy by forcing a desperation pick, and now has diminished the best card of the year.
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Cain Velasquez has only pulled out of 1 fight in his entire UFC career, and that was a rematch against Werdum. In every other instance his injuries, and lack of fighting, happened when he wasn't scheduled to fight anyone.... It doesn't make it better. He isn't fighting.
 
Taric said:
Cain Velasquez has only pulled out of 1 fight in his entire UFC career, and that was a rematch against Werdum. In every other instance his injuries, and lack of fighting, happened when he wasn't scheduled to fight anyone.... It doesn't make it better. He isn't fighting.
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You're focussing only on the fighter. Obviously from that perspective, pulling out is exactly the same as never booking. Sure. However, signing contracts, having the bout promoted and pulling out effects a lot more than just the individual fighter.
 
Sapp said:
You're focussing only on the fighter. Obviously from that perspective, pulling out is exactly the same as never booking. Sure. However, signing contracts, having the bout promoted and pulling out effects a lot more than just the individual fighter.
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The things we as fans care about and get effected by are the fighters, cards, and the fights. Your argument was literally that a fighter pulling out of a card screws up promotion, damages cards, and pisses off fans. I've illustrated quite clearly how that is the case for a fighter holding up a divisions belt for any reason. Since then you've been moving the goal post and it's getting annoying.
 
Taric said:
The things we as fans care about and get effected by are the fighters, cards, and the fights. Your argument was literally that a fighter pulling out of a card screws up promotion, damages cards, and pisses off fans. I've illustrated quite clearly how that is the case for a fighter holding up a divisions belt for any reason. Since then you've been moving the goal post and it's getting annoying.
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What, moving goalposts? I'm saying the same thing every time, to the extent where I'm struggling to find ways to reword the exact same point. Your argument that they had to make interim fights doesn't mean that cards are being damaged. It slows down divisions, sure, but that's not at all the same as leaving holes in cards, disappointing fans who buy tickets to the event, and dicking around the opponent fighter who has gone through a camp. Surely you can see the difference. In one there are more fights booked which have to be stepping stones. In the other the events themselves are damaged.
 
Roads55 said:
no reason lol? look at what he did, how much he made. he didn't need to fight. he had a kid. im as frustrated as anyone that he hasn't fought for so long but it's completely understandable.
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He took 3 fights outside of 145 while holding the FW belt, its been almost 2 years since he fought in MMA, almost a year since he boxed Mayweather, over a year since he had his kid. He could have easily defended his LW belt at least 2 times by now, but instead he is flying across the world to throw shit at Khabib on a bus instead of actually fighting the guy, or ANY guy for that matter, in the ring.

Remember when Dana said Conor is the only guy he felt comfortable with being a simultaneous 2 division champ because he KNEW that Conor would defend both belts? My how that situation turned out. Now we don't even know if he'll ever fight in MMA again.
 
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