Conor has 1 fight at LW

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  1. PROlogic

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    What's funny is Conor has still beaten more currenty ranked LWs then sherdog's new favorite hypejob Khabib

    Nate/Alvarez/Poirier

    Conor actually has more wins over currently top5 ranked LWs then Tony too

    "Quality over quantity"

    Still having said that, no one is calling Conor the LW GOAT right now

    This is a stupid thread where OP is creating his own false narratives to argue against

    Many do call Conor the FW GOAT (rightfully so)

    Many do call Conor an MMA GOAT (for his incredible resume, and unbelievably slick next level skills)

    But no one is calling Conor the LW GOAT yet

    Yes Conor has only had one fight at LW in the UFC, but it was against the actaul undipsuted real champion of LW

    ...And Conor made him look like an amature, like no one else ever had

    Thats a terrific starring point for Conor

    Dont try to make it seem like its only been 1 fight against #7 Lee, or 1 fight against #11 Iaquinta *cough cough cough

    If Conor now wipes out Khabib and Tony, then absolutely Conor would join the conversation for LW GOAT.

    No one else would have a better 3 wins against champs in their primes

    Again, quality over quantity

    Conor would become the only fighter in history to be the GOAT of 2 different divisions

    Lol to even say it's close in skill, shows your bias. There's no one in the entire UFC who's on Conor"s level in striking skill/boxing skill etc

    Show me another UFC fighter who does this to Floyd in a boxing match

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    I like how you say "aside from riods"

    You can't just cast that aside. Jones failing TWICE for riods casts aside Jones's entire legacy

    Let's be real, even without the fact that steroids disqualifying Jones from any all time great talks, Jones was already insanely over rated to begin with

    Never beat anyone his size. Never beat anyone his age. Exposed badly by Gus. Looked like shit against gatekeeper OSP

    There is no "aside from riods"

    We never even saw Jones fight without steroids. We only saw Jones in 1 USADA tested fight where he didn't fail, and he looked like absolute shit against a mid-tier OSP

    Jones and Anderson are the most over rated fighters in MMA history
     
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  2. Reffson

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    Dude Khabib was inactive for a long time plus he blew the Ferguson fight which F'd up the whole division. Now Ferguson is hurt also. Conor vs Khabib will happen so be careful what you wish for.
     
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    Love me some khabib but he’s got a long way to go before he is considered LW goat.....
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  4. PROlogic

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    Please never speak about technical analysis again, when you clearly know nothing.

    That rockback left is simply just a pull counter (which many orthodox greats in boxing also use) and it's simply just 1 of MANY different methods/counters Conor utilises.


    Here is Conor hitting a pull counter on Nate, which thoroughly disproves your whole bullshit about "Conor struggles with strikers with more reach"

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    Incredible of Conor!


    I bet you won't even be able to tell me how Conor set Nate up for that (because you don't know fighting, which is why you can't truly appreciate the true genius of Conor)


    I will give you a hint....

    Distance deception.

    It's one of many major staples of Conor's game.

    That's why Conor is always landing what he wants when he wants no matter who's he's facing. Conor will have multiple set ups for just one tactic alone


    Now here is Conor hitting a completely different inside slip parry to overhand counter on that same much taller opponent


    Simply incredible of Conor!


    Now for an example of what I was talking about earlier. Here is Conor using his pull counter with a dramatically different set up in a dramatically different way

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    Here is Conor using his footwork/angles to create his countering opportunity (instead of distance deception like before)

    Conor taking subtle lateral side steps to force Nate to turn to him out of position, so that Conor can pull counter from the angle thus line up his follow up right hook from a defensively safer position


    People like you who dont really understand fighting will never be able to understand the true genuis of Conor. Conor has impeccable other worldly skill with Bobby Fischer like fight IQ

    Boxing is all about subtlety. That's Conor's game in everything Conor does.


    Its sad, if you dont know fighting, you will never be able to understand all the steps Conor took and for what purposes, what set up Conor was utilising, how Conor was setting up that opponent all along, how Conor was utilising distance deception to create his countering opportunity or how Conor utilises fients in conjunction with his sophisticated leadhand probing radar system to keep an opponent off balance, set them up, distract for the lead, to draw out responses, or to time them out and snuff them out

    Here is Conor even out-jabbing Nate, when Nate was known as the jabber

    Conor the much smaller fighter with much less reach was out jabbing the shit out of Nate. Think about that. More proof to debunk your bullshit that Conor struggles against taller strikers with morr reach

    Conor was destroying Nate with jabs via fients/leadhand probes/switching up the speeds of his jabs utilising different kinds of jabs (upjabs mixed with straight jabs to pump fake jabs and double jabs) to always keep Nate continually off guard and off balance



    Thats the theme of Conor. They are always sophisticated layers and layers to everything Conor does

    The reason why Conor is so next level and is so hard to ever figure out is because he's one of the most complete strikers combat sports has ever seen who can do it all defensively and offensively from any range, any position, hit any counter from anywhere, and set you up from anywhere etc

    Conor has multitudes of different set ups alone for just the simplest things he does. Opponents never know what Conor is doing and when Conor is setting them up or how etc

    Conor really doesn't get the credit he deserves, or even just the credit he deserves for that Nate fight either

    People don't understand the brilliance of what Conor was accomplishing

    Nate is one of the best boxers in MMA (not named Conor) ANDRE freaking Ward said Nate gives him trouble.him in sparring

    And yet Conor despite being 2 weight classes smaller then Nate still put a boxing clinic on Nate.
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    Only an insane person or someone who knows nothing about fighting would call this struggling


    Conor the career FW is the only fighter to ever outbox Nate Diaz. Conor the much smaller fighter was even OUT JABBING Nate.

    Conor should be celebrated for the incredible world class #1 p4p skill he showcased against Nate - and is always continuously showcasing against nothing but the best of the best.

    Let me continue to educate you



    Conor would humiliate Barboza

    Barboza has weak boxing, is terrible on the back foot, has NO chin and crumbles under any kind of pressure. Conor literally destroys Barboza without breaking a sweet.

    Borboza's weakness is to boxers, and Conor is the best legit fundamentally skilled boxer to have ever competed in the UFC at the highest level


    Tony with all his gaping defensive flaws gets counter fucked by Conor worse then Alvarez did

    Conor all day over Khabib too. Khabib needs to close the distance. Good luck with that against Conor's range control, elite footwork, slick counter punching which all further aid TDD. Plus Conor has another secret measure he uses to stuff wrestlers once they get inside on him. Stiff arming and neck framing etc. Conor is the one whos actually a bad natch up for Khabib. You will see.

    Its sad how many people still can't understamd that Conor operates on an entirely different universe compared to everyone else

    This is the realest quote I've ever read

    "The UNeducated eye simply can not comprehend the brilliance of Conor McGregor"
     
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    Da fuck? Didn’t even read but u white belt Sherdog noob. Don’t tell me bout fighting. I’ll show u rockback with my dick.
     
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    The most overrated fighter ever with the most hate and the worst fanbase. It really is quite remarkable what's he done to achieve this reputation.
    I wonder if the casual fanbase have any idea of the title situation. I know fans of his who have never seen any of his fights
     
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    He doesn't want anyone unless it's a big payday - top ten, top 5, #1 contender. So to claim he is ducking the top guys is bullshit. He won two belts by fighting champions. Is there any more 'top' than that?
     
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    He basically just wants someone he can win against or will get paid millions to get mauled by. Notice how all the greats stayed around and beat all the top guys and proved how great they were? That's the difference he knows he can't back it up like gsp and silva did which is why he's not a great
     
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    Cheaters aren't too great in my book.
     
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    How'd he win the cage warriors LW belt?
     
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    Today I agree. Back then everyone was juicing so I view it a little differently. But I agree, I no longer consider jones create cause he has been caught cheating in the usada era twice
     
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    Exactly. You don't know nothing. Hence you hostile response. Trust me. Just read what I wrote and you will gain a better understanding for fighting and appreciate for Conor's game. It's for your sake. Don't continue to stay in ignorance. It's for your sake
     
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    Jones, Mini Mouse, and Anderson are the most over rated fighters in MMA history

    Also, just 1 Conor sherdog hater is worse then a million Conor fans combined. The haters are far worse. They deny actual reality "Conor isn't a great fighter" etc. That's far worse
     
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    Contest is king.
    I say he fought 2 LWs.

    3 fights
    2W,1L

    How is that a respectable record?
     
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    Did you really take the time to digest your awe inspiring this will shut up the haters post? Undefeated because he chose not to fight while being healthy, fit, capable, and paid, so now they stripped him 2X we won't even talk about the abandoned Cage Warriors belts...











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    Put another way:
    • 1 decisive win
    • 1 eeked out split decision
    • 1 decisive loss
    It's hard to put Conor in the top echelon of LWs when he only has one decisive win at LW. Take all the GOAT candidates and they have many, many decisive wins (even GSP haters acknowledge that he dominated his opponents) whereas Conor doesn't.

    Conor is undoubtedly a great marketer, and he's parlayed that into financial success far beyond his fighting abilities (think Canadian league football player talent level earning NFL type money). But only a fool thinks he belongs anywhere near the discussion of GOATs when he's never had a dominate run, nor been on top fighting the best of the best for years.
     
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    perfect complement to my miserable post.
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    Conor weighs well over 156.1, he can make WW
     
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