Communism will win.

If you point at a dog and say it is a cat, then I say no man that is a dog... would you say NO TRUE CATS!!!! Communism has a specific definition that is diametrically opposed to authoritarianism and centralization.
What communism is in theory has greatly differed from what it is in practice. The theory is a lie and the practice is a historical fact. No communist party ever had intention of relinquishing power or dissolving the state. Only an idiot believes that.
 
I don't understand why you can think it's a failed ideology but to each his own.

Because to achieve the goals of communism you have to create centralized government, and centralized government is failed ideology.

Worker co-ops are a decentralization of power.
 
Ah yes, define a word in your own special way and then call someone else stupid for not subscribing to it. An intellectually dishonest tactic.

Please show me a place where communism is being practiced like you think it should and is working well for most of the people that live there.

I'm not the one that defined the word. I just stick to it's actual meaning as written by the people who developed the philosophy.
 
Ok so you are a US citizen, the simple question I have for you is - if you believe in communism so much why not renounce your citinzenship and live in a place like Cuba or N. Korea?

Communism, theoretically, is stateless. Cuba and N.Korea both do not meet that definition.
 
Because to achieve the goals of communism you have to create centralized government, and centralized government is failed ideology.

Worker co-ops are a decentralization of power.

That is socialism not communism...

What you are describing is right in line with Rosa Luxembourg and Peter Kropotkin.
 
False.... I want no Capitalism and all Communism. Capitalism doesn't really give any freedoms. It restricts them behind pay walls and private property signs.

Alright so the best way to get it right now today is what I've put on the table for you. Cuba and or N. Korea would love to have you. You are like rest of them bro, you sit in your comfortable US house with your modern car and modern life where you can say what you want when you want and enjoy any food you want when you want and spew all this capatalism is evil shit but won't put your money where your mouth is. That's all I needed to know, take it easy and good luck with your communism
 
What communism is in theory has greatly differed from what it is in practice. The theory is a lie and the practice is a historical fact. No communist party ever had intention of relinquishing power or dissolving the state. Only an idiot believes that.

If something in practice has nothing to do with something in theory, then why link the two? Seems like peak liberal dishonesty to me.
 
Theoretical? Shit seemed pretty real when I was experiencing it

Were the means of production owned by the working class?

Just because a ruler says he is something doesn't mean he is actually that thing.
 
Alright so the best way to get it right now today is what I've put on the table for you. Cuba and or N. Korea would love to have you. You are like rest of them bro, you sit in your comfortable US house with your modern car and modern life where you can say what you want when you want and enjoy any food you want when you want and spew all this capatalism is evil shit but won't put your money where your mouth is. That's all I needed to know, take it easy and good luck with your communism


If I want communism why would I go anywhere near North Korea or Cuba?
 
If something in practice has nothing to do with something in theory, then why link the two? Seems like peak liberal dishonesty to me.


Those who are dishonest about Communism's sordid track record are generally communists. And the failings of communism in practice are inherent in the theory. What kind of idiot thinks that the way to a stateless society is concentrate all political and economic power in the state?
 
That is socialism not communism...

What you are describing is right in line with Rosa Luxembourg and Peter Kropotkin.

So if crypto-currency, self issued credit, 3-D printing, automation, and AI lead to community ownership of the means of production, as the capital required to create the means of production is dwarfed by the return on investment, that was only arrived at through capitalism enormous success through efficiency , this would be communism in your book?
 
It will globally ONLY if the world can be broken into regions and i'd argue you would need to unite the respective regions based off something like phenotype/race. It would be very hard to get Arabs to be communist with non-Arabs let alone non-Arab Muslims for instance.

Easily you could have a EEU communist block along the lines of the USSR borders, EU communist block, East Asian/South East asian communist block, South American communist block. Maybe then a union block for North Africa and the Middle East, so groups like Turks and Kurds take a back seat but it could maybe one day work. Jews would need their own thing though since they are surrounded by Anti-Semites.

For the USA, Canada etc. Id argue you might as well just join them with the UK, Australia, NZ, and unite them as an 'Anglo' speaking union that is largely multicultural. At this point Canada, and the USA are multicultural beyond repair. You won't find any other common ground with people.
 
Economic slavery by our jewish overlords is the future.

You are so weird.

You talk about 'Big black cock' quite often. You were talking about BBC and Mandingo porn in the Mayberry just earlier today. And that was like the +10th time I have seen you talking about BBC porn and 'BBC'.


And then you regularly spew anti-Semitic garbage.

Jews have been HUGE victims under Communism.


What are you by the way? A white man or what?
 
When people are tired of getting cucked by their boss, their representatives, their bank, and the multinational they will turn to real freedom and cut the private interests that pillage their labor. The Trumpster has pushed America the furthest left we have been since the early 1900s and its only a matter of time now until wealth and crowned heads are trampled by the huddled masses tired of getting ripped off by capitalist swine.
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You cannot refute this.


So you will take communism where the government literally owns everything as not being a cuck????
You are about as fucking stupid as they get here.

Capitalism is the least cuck system there is----it is voluntary transactions, privately owned business and real estate.
 
So you will take communism where the government literally owns everything as not being a cuck????
You are about as fucking stupid as they get here.

Capitalism is the least cuck system there is----it is voluntary transactions, privately owned business and real estate.

You are weakening and ruining the use of the word 'cuck'.
 
So if crypto-currency, self issued credit, 3-D printing, automation, and AI lead to community ownership of the means of production, as the capital required to create the means of production is dwarfed by the return on investment, that was only arrived at through capitalism enormous success through efficiency , this would be communism in your book?

Yes....ish. Marx saw economics as an evolution of systems where each system built upon the last with the end stage being a reversion to communal living with all the goods that came from the systems before it. Capitalism is a required stage in order to build the necessary infrastructure to move on. Same as feudalism before it.

The end goal is total freedom where people live unrestricted by states, privatization, their needs. I fully believe that this is the only positive outcome of the automation revolution.
 
So you will take communism where the government literally owns everything as not being a cuck????
You are about as fucking stupid as they get here.

Capitalism is the least cuck system there is----it is voluntary transactions, privately owned business and real estate.

You can't have a government in communism.... You failed right off the bat.

Capitalism is literally renting yourself out as a tool so your family can survive while your boss takes the profits you made to take your wife out for a nice seafood dinner while you break your body paying for the champaign.

You aren't even a man.
 
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