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These threads get tedious after awhile, feels pointless to respond to everything. But some posts are just inspiringly stupid.I'm not sure he realized anybody was paying attention
These threads get tedious after awhile, feels pointless to respond to everything. But some posts are just inspiringly stupid.I'm not sure he realized anybody was paying attention
That's so nonsensical as a measure of cultural worth, first of all you have Moby Dick which was written in 1851, so long after everything the Aztecs recorded. And then there's the fact that I would take the Hindu Vedas and Puranas over Moby Dick any day, and they predate it by thousands of years. I know that's a totally different Indian, but we don't consider Moby Dick and its like worthless because there's something valuable of its kind in a different part of the world.
We can pretend the Aztecs, Eskimos, or Moon Men all have a work of refined culture
What you give value to is subjective, unless you believe in a homogeneous hive mind. Plus you're taking one short lived culture among many, a particularly dark and brutal one among its peers in particular, and assigning all cultural value to what they had recorded that survived. No one even speaks the language and can read what was written well enough to be well versed in whatever depth they even had to offer. What great stories or written history survived from the Roman Empire? Are you going to tell me the Romans had nothing to offer?No, what a cultural gives collective humanity has value and can, neigh probably should be categorized
Second, I would take the Hindu Vedas over Moby Dick as well, but the problem is that many of those things do not have the same value, no matter how much we want to look for it.
We can pretend the Aztecs, Eskimos, or Moon Men all have a work of refined culture, subtly, and brilliance that can not be appreciated, or that due to pride, we have to believe all are capable or did produce these things.
When in fact, culture is competitive, as is civilization, and no matter how much I want a rather stately lump of coal to resemble gold, I can not make it so in reality, just in my heart and in the heart's of other men.
Crediting Columbus for the discovery of America, is like crediting Imperial Japan's invasion of Pearl Harbor for the invention of nuclear energy; or Adolf Hitler for the Apollo program.
Christopher Columbus was an evil evil man. Hes literally no different then ISIS. He did it all- genocide, sport killing, looting, pillaging, rape, slavery, pedophilia, etc. He did it all in the name of god. Anyone who defends Columbus while at the same time criticize radical Islam, is a fucking hypocrite.
That's a Mooninite, you plebian.I'll take "Moon Man Culture" for $200, Alex
What you give value to is subjective, unless you believe in a homogeneous hive mind. Plus you're taking one short lived culture among many, a particularly dark and brutal one among its peers in particular, and assigning all cultural value to what they had recorded that survived. No one even speaks the language and can read what was written well enough to be well versed in whatever depth they even had to offer. What great stories or written history survived from the Roman Empire? Are you going to tell me the Romans had nothing to offer?
What you give value to is subjective, unless you believe in a homogeneous hive mind. Plus you're taking one short lived culture among many, a particularly dark and brutal one among its peers in particular, and assigning all cultural value to what they had recorded that survived. No one even speaks the language and can read what was written well enough to be well versed in whatever depth they even had to offer. What great stories or written history survived from the Roman Empire? Are you going to tell me the Romans had nothing to offer?
you're vastly exaggerating the actual extent of human sacrifice and you're also being dishonest about your intentions.So is that your take on it? We're celebrating the colonization of the Americas by the Indigenous Peoples? That's what the people wanting this holiday to be put in are saying? Is celebrating colonizers who kept slaves becoming a thing again? Human sacrifice - all good? Is our general societal concern for the evils of a culture being waived in this case so we can celebrate the original colonization? I do hope that as we're doing this, we don't white wash the history of these colonizers and recognize that they were a bunch of dicks themselves doing horrible, abhorrent things to each other, and we openly include that in our discussion about their accomplishments - like we do with other groups throughout history.
yes because those are the only indigenous people in North and South America.
probably Sam Harris. "scholar" LOLWhat scholar would that be?
secondly would be the commercial exploitation of the day. christmas is bad enough already.
Must be Jordan Peterson. He's the only scholar sherdog knows.What scholar would that be?