College "Athletes" must write essays in forced sodomy case

[ripskater]

People designate Christian based on things that aren't necessarily correct. Parents taking you to church as a child doesn't make you Christian - in fact going to church as an adult doesn't make you a Christian, some people go for business contacts and appearances.

No doubt.

 

[hillelslovak87]

We don't know if Trump is a Christian or not. I don't claim that he is.

You've first got to prove that these football players are Christians at the time of sodomizing their peers.

I dont claim to know if either Trump or these players are christians. I dont really care, as believing in Jesus does not magically make someone a good person.

You're the one excusing Trump's behavior, refusing to say it's patently un jesus like, saying you dont know his heart, but these guys? Perfectly willing to presume they aren't. Again, hypocritical.

 

[Michaelangelo]

The college admins should be charged as well

 

[KYS]

So this happened in my hometown of Wheaton, Illinois at a christian college.

Wheaton College, the evangelical school in Illinois, will expel you if you have pre-marital sex with your long-time partner.

They will kick you out if you’re in a committed same-sex relationship.

You’re not allowed to watch porn.

Well,

A fellow student was kidnapped from his dorm room, bound his arms and legs and almost sodomized by an unknown object.

The punishment for this crime? Well 50 hours of community service and the rapists were forced to write an 8 page essay reflecting on their behavior. I'm sure the essay goes something like, Please forgive me father for that I did not realize kidnap and forcible sodomy were bad. It's just I gave into temptation.

https://patch.com/illinois/wheaton/...all-players-beat-sexually-assaulted-kidnapped

So much for christians having the moral high ground. Good thing the police were called in so these clowns can face some real charges. I wonder if they will be able to pray this all away

@ripskater

Poor @ripskater.

 

[ripskater]

I dont claim to know if either Trump or these players are christians. I dont really care, as believing in Jesus does not magically make someone a good person.

You're the one excusing Trump's behavior, refusing to say it's patently un jesus like, saying you dont know his heart, but these guys? Perfectly willing to presume they aren't. Again, hypocritical.

What behavior of Trump do you believe I am excusing?

These football players raped a student with a foreign object. That tells me all I need to know about their heart. There is a difference between tweeting golfball gifs and saying Rocket Man vs sodomizing another person with a foreign object.

 

[mrbaapt]

As an atheist, I don't think this is a Christian problem. This is a stupid problem.

Both groups are often related.

 

[Dark One]

How exactly does someone get "almost sodomized"?

 

[hillelslovak87]

What behavior of Trump do you believe I am excusing?

These football players raped a student with a foreign object. That tells me all I need to know about their heart. There is a difference between tweeting golfball gifs and saying Rocket Man vs sodomizing another person with a foreign object.

You excuse every single instance of his shit behavior. You continually proclaim your christianity. You are being hypocritical by immediately judging these guys, while giving Trump a pass on his behavior, routinely.

It's simple, since you're a sinner, you dont judge either, or you take the actual moral position, and judge both. If you choose neither, you are a hypocrite.

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

Forced sodomy, you sure it wasn't a catholic school?

Thank you very much you're too kind!

 

[mrbaapt]

People designate Christian based on things that aren't necessarily correct. Parents taking you to church as a child doesn't make you Christian - in fact going to church as an adult doesn't make you a Christian, some people go for business contacts and appearances.

True Christians pray to find toys and they appear.

 

[ripskater]

You excuse every single instance of his shit behavior. Your bible says that sins are equal. There are no sins. You continually proclaim your christianity. You are being hypocritical by immediately judging these guys, while giving Trump a pass on his behavior, routinely.

Sorry, but these football players should be in prison for this.


What do you want me to be upset with Trump over? Eating two scoops of ice cream and letting Melania wear stilettos to Houston?

 

[hillelslovak87]

Sorry, but these football players should be in prison for this.


What do you want me to be upset with Trump over? Eating two scoops of ice cream and letting Melania wear stilettos to Houston?

Once again, you are judging these people, despite what Jesus says. Jesus excoriates the rich, the prideful and the selfish. This was incredibly important to Jesus, and a foundational principle of his message. You refuse to criticize Trump in any fashion, ever. Hypocrisy.

So, is it apply the "judge not, lest ye be judged", or condemn both? If you dont choose one of these options, you are being a hypocrite.

 

[IDL]

Once again, you are judging these people, despite what Jesus says. Jesus excoriates the rich, the prideful and the selfish. This was incredibly important to Jesus, and a foundational principle of his message. You refuse to criticize Trump in any fashion, ever. Hypocrisy.

So, is it apply the "judge not, lest ye be judged", or condemn both? If you dont choose one of these options, you are being a hypocrite.

Geez man, just give him an example. You make it sound like he should be condemned because he's rich.

At least bring up that Trump is likely a womanizer or something.

 

[hillelslovak87]

Geez man, just give him an example. You make it sound like he should be condemned because he's rich.

At least bring up that Trump is likely a womanizer or something.

Jesus excoriates the rich, even going so far as to say they cant enter his kingdom. Jesus shows a disdain for pride. Trump is the most prideful person I have ever seen, and brags constantly about his riches. The bible holds no special category for small sins. He refuses to condemn the man's anti Jesus like behaviors, yet condemns these men immediately, seeming on instinct.

 

[rokzilla]

Jesus excoriates the rich, even going so far as to say they cant enter his kingdom. Jesus shows a disdain for pride. Trump is the most prideful person I have ever seen, and brags constantly about his riches. The bible holds no special category for small sins. He refuses to condemn the man's anti Jesus like behaviors, yet condemns these men immediately, seeming on instinct.

We get it, you don't like Christians. Can we move on? You sound like such a cunt right now dude.

 

[IDL]

Jesus excoriates the rich, even going so far as to say they cant enter his kingdom. Jesus shows a disdain for pride. Trump is the most prideful person I have ever seen, and brags constantly about his riches. The bible holds no special category for small sins. He refuses to condemn the man's anti Jesus like behaviors, yet condemns these men immediately, seeming on instinct.

I have a feeling that context matters in terms of condemning the rich, but I don't know the religious perspective on it very well at all.

As for being prideful, well sure he's prideful. That is at least something for Rip to 'condemn' if he so chooses. I don't think anyone is under the impression that Trump is a Jesus like man.

 

[hillelslovak87]

We get it, you don't like Christians. Can we move on? You sound like such a cunt right now dude.

You're perfectly free to point out how my critique of him is wrong.

 

[hillelslovak87]

I have a feeling that context matters in terms of condemning the rich, but I don't know the religious perspective on it very well at all.

As for being prideful, well sure he's prideful. That is at least something for Rip to 'condemn' if he so chooses. I don't think anyone is under the impression that Trump is a Jesus like man.

The Bible says judge not, lest ye be judged. He's not willing to condemn his leader, because the leader says he likes Jesus, yet these guys at the christian school? Nope, they're guilty and not christians. Double standard.

 

[ineverpost]

the college makes money by soliciting donors from social conservatives, as well as their athletic program. Everything is about money, any other reason is a cover

 

[IDL]

The Bible says judge not, lest ye be judged. He's not willing to condemn his leader, because the leader says he likes Jesus, yet these guys at the christian school? Nope, they're guilty and not christians. Double standard.

You are asking for a blanket condemnation of the man, in a very general sense. Rather than to condemn a specific sin. If I remember correctly, RIP believes that we are all sinners, which means that he believes Trump is a sinner.

Rip can correct me if I'm wrong there.