Coker comments on Bellator ratings downturn

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  1. FKA

    FKA THAT BELLATOR GUY/IN DEREK CARR WE TRUST!!!!

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    Thank uncle Dana for increasing amount of events pure year while watering down the overall product.They are spreading themselves thin and giving the consumer way too much to consume.It was better with less ppvs atleast when they happened it mattered more now almost every other PPV I don't really care to buy.

    This is why mma numbers are suffering because with every passing event more and more people feel exactly like you do.
     
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    Judoka1532 Judoka1532

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    as much as I wish it wasn't true, I think you are right......
     
  3. FKA

    FKA THAT BELLATOR GUY/IN DEREK CARR WE TRUST!!!!

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    I used to buy every UFC ppv no matter what and I never regretted it for the most part because the cards were good and every fighter I knew and was vested in them.

    Now I probly buy 4 out of every 10 they put out......im not paying 65 bucks for just whatever females and manlets are thrown on a card.
     
  4. InfinityLens

    InfinityLens Brown Belt

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    Not on Kimbo, on freakshows in general. Kimbos death and DD5K's (sort of) death scared Coker off said freakshows which bring us today.

    I hope they find a market in Europe and start doing more freakshows.
     
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    MacDuffle Red Belt

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    maybe if they focused on Visas and assisting fighters through them they wouldn't have so many promising international Ams shut down all over the goddemned place

    I still want my frodo khasbulaev
     
  6. Judoka1532

    Judoka1532 Judoka1532

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    Bro I feel you there. After 2014 I had/have my own place and I would invite people over at least 5-6 times a year to watch the fights. Generally I had no problem getting people to come over. Now, I rent 2-3 fights a year and have trouble getting a lot of people over. I also don't know if my friends are just tightwads or what but generally I end up paying over 50% of the costs. I purchased a firestick and TBH, I've had it since xmas and I've yet to invite anybody over and buy a ppv. I'm planning on having people over for the DC/Miocic card because that's the only one I think is worthy of it. I prefer the quality of ppv but firestick quality suffices most of the time. I think maybe I should stop watching every single fight and skip a few cards that I know will be dull.
     
  7. skylolow

    skylolow Silver Belt

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    I don't know how much I'd put it on Dana.

    The media partners are who ask for the content and how much. The UFC doesn't just say we are giving you 29 events or whatever. Now the PPV's that is something Zuffa probably could've controlled better. Though once again the PPV distribution company maybe gave them a better split of the pie by guaranteeing a PPV every month. A lot of stuff goes on behind the scenes.

    I think its part saturation but its also fans know what they want/watching today. There educated on the sport much better today than 2009. They get enough MMA that they aren't going out of there way to watch a questionable card on paper. The media outlets should also realize this and not ask for so many damn cards. But they got there own things to worry about.

    Bellator ratings isn't so much a Bjorn vs Coker argument as its a Bjorn vs Coker cost vs ratings argument and that is where bean counters have to be scratching there heads. How does a card that cost Viacom 20% of what a Coker show cost does similar ratings. Spending money on the name value guys doesn't seem to be paying off in the big picture. Sure they get better attendance but is that enough to make up for extra spending, I don't know. I do know Bellator still give Paramount a lot of live sports programming for year for pretty cheap so I know ratings aren't the end all end all. But damn, you can't tell me they aren't worried back stage when the network is gaining viewers and they are losing viewers. None of us can spin that as a good thing.
     
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    CC27 Gold Belt

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    Actually even with all those Kimbo numbers Bjorn's averaging more.

    37 Bjorn events on Spike did 701k average (This includes PPV prelims)

    Coker's 79 events are averaging 668k (This includes NYC PPV Prelims)


    So they are close but Bjorn actually did better ratings with less production budget and payroll.
     
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    kingcillo24 Brown Belt

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    Thankfully Kendall Grove is no longer main carding Bellator cards.
     
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    Cousin Oliver Purple Belt

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    The Paramount rebrand has been a complete failure for Viacom so far. Lip Sync Battle, Spike's biggest show, used to do around 1 million viewers. Now it's doing around 400k. Paramount's latest series debut, "American Woman" starring Alicia Silverstone, is doing around 350k. Bellator is doing better than either of those, and on Fridays, when TV ratings are at their lowest. If Kevin Costner's "Yellowstone" flops, that will prompt a lot of stories in the entertainment media about the failure of the Paramount Network .
     
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  11. David Street

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    To me never enough events, new people become fans and events get big with the BIG names yes with Ronda, & Connor.. Brock.. they draw in the people, cheap die-hard fans like me will watch anything if I can find someone wanting to share an event (I will bring snacks). But the bigger the event the more people will want to do it. In the meantime I watch what I can on my cheap cable package. UFC, Bellator, LFA, PFL.. any event is for me, should have fights on everyday.
     
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    Bubba32 Blue Belt

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    i cant imagine bellator being around this time next year.
     
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    Danespina Silver Belt

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    How can TV channels NOT have lost a ton of viewers to online streaming? Particularly that 18-34 demographic. It seems impossible to me.

    In order for a MMA company to maintain it's TV viewership from 2008 all the way till 2018, just maintain it, they'd probably have to ncrease their overall viewership (TV and online) by 2. That's just the way it is these days.
     
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    Danespina Silver Belt

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    And BTW. Bellator just put on 3 back to back quality shows that included Mousasi, MVP, Fedor, Mir, Bader, Daley, Pico etc. And in that process they've set the foundation for potential dream matches like...

    - Gegard Mousasi vs. Rory MacDonald
    - Fedor Emelianenko vs. Chael Sonnen
    - Michael Page vs. Paul Daley

    Hell they even had people discussing Fedor vs. Crocop II before the unfortunate injury.

    My point being, it's not like they've been doing so bad. You can see the company making real moves in signing talent, and in slowly positioning themselves as a true alternative for UFC fighters to go - even in the prime of their careers.
     

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