Classism in Liberal News Comedy

TS, do you really think Maher, Oliver and Colbert should be lumped together though? They frequently are, but I feel like their similarities pretty much begin and end at "liberal infotainment show host". They're very different in the way they structure their shows, the topics they focus on, their delivery... the only ones that kind of overlap are Colbert, Trevor Noah and Seth Meyers.

Regardless of that, I disagree with the assertion their message has become classist. The only guy you could really pin that on would be Maher because he so vividly embodies the "liberal snob" stereotype. If any of them are guilty of alienating working class religious white people, that would be him.

I do think that it has become kind of repetitive how much they all focus on Trump as a source of jokes, but I'd like to offer a different perspective: during the election cycle, they took it upon themselves to showcase the ridiculousness of his campaign and of Trump as a public figure while actual news shows were excessively tame (specially during the primaries). While Trump was running around accusing a Hispanic judge of being biased towards him because of heritage and being caught on tape saying what's probably the most outrageous line you'll ever hear out of a highly influential politician (grab'em by the pussy), news channels limited their coverage to "oh my, he said that. In other news..."

So now that general scrutiny towards Trump has increased, their material kind of falls on deaf ears, but if anything they were the most consistent.
 
You are a six time banned forum member, who keeps coming back to troll.

You are certifiably insane.

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+++LIBERALS BTFO+++

Was that supposed to be a joke?

Look, I can write an essay on how somebody can overcook bacon. Make it seem all smart n' shit. The bottom line would still be, "Don't overcook the bacon, you fuckin' moron."
 
Was that supposed to be a joke?

Look, I can write an essay on how somebody can overcook bacon. Make it seem all smart n' shit. The bottom line would still be, "Don't overcook the bacon, you fuckin' moron."

Stay in your own country.
 
Lower middle class elitist who pretend intelligence is based on political persuasion and not intelligence? Yeah.. The left is now rolling in it.

Under Stewart, it was much more common sense I'm a slightly condescending fashion. Palatable. Now? Idiots losing debates online think they can say "logic and facts" I'm arguments, and it wins because of their superior... Political affiliation? The brains are on Independants right now, but lefties still want to be the brains. Their ideology has gone where fox news fans went all those years ago.. Into the believe this dogmatic b.s. and turn off your brain category.
 
I always thought Oliver being an English snob is part of his TV personality. I mean he spends half of the time making fun of himself. Like most quality, British TV presenters do the guys from Top gear do the same thing. They sure make fun of other people but most of the time they make jokes about British people or themselves. I just think that is part of British humor.
He is the funniest of all of them. Also, he doesn't represent the other side well sometimes. But he can be hilarious.

Maher is a first class douche but he knows it. Also kind of part of his act he is also still doing alright considering he is around forever.
Never was a big fan of Colbert. I don't think he is funny.
 
Never was a big fan of Colbert. I don't think he is funny.

He was a lot funnier when he was parodying a hard right personality.

He is a lot less funnier when he's being his genuinely smug, Liberal cunt self.

Funny that...
 
Lower middle class elitist who pretend intelligence is based on political persuasion and not intelligence? Yeah.. The left is now rolling in it.

I think that's a mischaracterization. Since the 1930s, the Republican Party has always had a more reactionary, short-sighted element to policy making. That has often ran into an intellectual roadblock in their support. I mean, Reagan's first term was really the last time you could honestly say that the intellectual community was anywhere near divided in our partisan landscape.

Idiots losing debates online think they can say "logic and facts" I'm arguments, and it wins because of their superior

You don't think that has actually been a conservative tactic? In my experience, the liberal trendsters will just kind of scoff and brush off arguments, while the conservatives will tackle "common sense" positions like entitlements and use the "you can't handle my LOGIC and FACTS" line.


The brains are on Independants right now, but lefties still want to be the brains. Their ideology has gone where fox news fans went all those years ago.. Into the believe this dogmatic b.s. and turn off your brain category.

Well, no, the "brains" have polarized to the left more now than at any previous point (although that is just as much a reflection of the anti-intellectualism of the right as it is of the pro-intellectualism of the left-- which is itself deteriorating, I agree).
 
WITH TRUDEAU?!

Bbbbooo

I'm guessing he's responding to Heretic.

I still don't like that. I don't think Tropodan or Heretic offer much in the way of discourse, but they should be able to speak freely on US policy/politics so long as they are informed (I know, I know). Same with Rod, Shinkanpo, etc.

It doesn't matter how much these moron rightists want to recede back to pre-internet nation state yesteryear. It's now a global economy, a global political arena, and a global marketplace of ideas.
 
Apparently liberals can't walk a mile in conservative shoes.

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I'm guessing he's responding to Heretic.

I still don't like that. I don't think Tropodan or Heretic offer much in the way of discourse, but they should be able to speak freely on US policy/politics so long as they are informed (I know, I know). Same with Rod, Shinkanpo, etc.

It doesn't matter how much these moron rightists want to recede back to pre-internet nation state yesteryear. It's now a global economy, a global political arena, and a global marketplace of ideas.

That would make more sense if he were concerned with U.S. policy or ideology. It's pretty pathetic that he's a mindless partisan who isn't even American.
 
That would make more sense if he were concerned with U.S. policy or ideology. It's pretty pathetic that he's a mindless partisan who isn't even American.

I'm affirmatively declining to pass judgments on this issue. You know how those individualized judgments can be propagated to insinuate unfair treatment (such that, say, it would then be leveraged against appreciating Rod's contributions) and just push the bar lower. This actually analogizes to a 1A jurisprudence conversation earlier --> when in doubt, more speech. Not less.
 
That would make more sense if he were concerned with U.S. policy or ideology. It's pretty pathetic that he's a mindless partisan who isn't even American.


Lame.

Did you ever answer @Starman's question BTW, or did you just duck out of that thread, like you always do when you're posed with a question you refuse to answer?
 
Also @Jack V Savage , and I know this is somewhat socialist to your ear, but I hope you heed it nonetheless, international coalitionism is about to be the new frontier. We've already seen it with Sanders/Corbyn supporters and now with the Western European/American right. Once Sanders is the next president, and sanctions are lifted and ties opened up again with Cuba and Venezuela-- I think, or rather hope, we'll see the flood gates open and a "coalition of reason" type deal in the Western Hemisphere between social democrats (Corbyn/Bernie), socialists (Cuba/Venezuela/Bolivia next) in combating these nationalist morons and opening up the development of (increasingly needed, with economic development) market socialism.

I have been drinking, so I hope that is somewhat intelligible. But i do think that ideological neoliberals will play a part in upending institutional neoliberalism, which has given way to this disgusting reactionary plague that you see here. So, in summation, let the foreigners speak, and the cream will hopefully rise to the top.
 
I cannot stand watching/listening to that fucker talk.

I enjoy reading him in print, but that's it. Any other medium is exhausting
I'll take 10 hours of Zizek to 5 minutes of Jordan Peterson or Ben Shapiro any day.
 
I'll take 10 hours of Zizek to 5 minutes of Jordan Peterson or Ben Shapiro any day.

I'll listen to Zizek over Shapiro FOR SURE.


But Peterson is generally pretty boring and doesn't say anything meaningful. And he does it in a measured tone so that 2+2=4 makes his followers feel brilliant. I'll take that over Zizek.
 
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