Civil War was about Slavery. Video inside

[splendica]

4 million slaves, all democrat slave-owners at the time of the civil war.

http://revolutionaryworkersgroup.org/the-history-of-the-democratic-party-rooted-in-slavery/

And blacks are still being suppressed by the Democratic party.

http://www.wnd.com/2016/07/the-ugly-history-of-democratic-suppression-of-blacks/

 

[Falsedawn]

https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SDU18681204.2.3

"The greatest efforts made by the defeated insurgents since the close of the war have been to promulgate the idea that the cause of liberty, justice, humanity, equality, and all the calendar of the virtues of freedom, suffered violence and wrong when the effort for southern independence failed. This is, of course, intended as a species of political cant, whereby the crime of treason might be covered with a counterfeit varnish of patriotism, so that the precipitators of the rebellion might go down in history hand in hand with the defenders of the government, thus wiping out with their own hands their own stains; a species of self-forgiveness amazing in its effrontery, when it is considered that life and property—justly forfeited by the laws of the country, of war, and of nations, through the magnanimity of the government and people—was not exacted from them."

GEO. H. THOMAS, Major General U. S. A., Commanding

https://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/mosby_john_singleton_1833-1916

In a letter of 1894 he insisted, "I always understood that we went to War on account of the thing we quarreled with the North about. I never heard of any other cause of quarrel than slavery." As late as 1902 he mused, "in retrospect slavery seems such a monstrous thing that some are now trying to prove that slavery was not the cause of the war."

John Singleton Mosby, Lieutenant Colonel, 43rd Virginia Partisan Rangers

 

[*Z*]

https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SDU18681204.2.3

"The greatest efforts made by the defeated insurgents since the close of the war have been to promulgate the idea that the cause of liberty, justice, humanity, equality, and all the calendar of the virtues of freedom, suffered violence and wrong when the effort for southern independence failed. This is, of course, intended as a species of political cant, whereby the crime of treason might be covered with a counterfeit varnish of patriotism, so that the precipitators of the rebellion might go down in history hand in hand with the defenders of the government, thus wiping out with their own hands their own stains; a species of self-forgiveness amazing in its effrontery, when it is considered that life and property—justly forfeited by the laws of the country, of war, and of nations, through the magnanimity of the government and people—was not exacted from them."

GEO. H. THOMAS, Major General U. S. A., Commanding

https://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/mosby_john_singleton_1833-1916

In a letter of 1894 he insisted, "I always understood that we went to War on account of the thing we quarreled with the North about. I never heard of any other cause of quarrel than slavery." As late as 1902 he mused, "in retrospect slavery seems such a monstrous thing that some are now trying to prove that slavery was not the cause of the war."

John Singleton Mosby, Lieutenant Colonel, 43rd Virginia Partisan Rangers

There's really no argument that slavery played a big part in the war. It's the notion that the north was fighting to free the slaves and Abraham Lincoln was some saint. He wasn't.

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

I don't think so. Slaves in the U.S. numbered 450,000. In comparison Brazil had 4.5 million slaves. That is why so many Southern Americans (Confederates) moved to Brazil after the Civil War - an agricultural industry. There ancestors live there to this day.

You may be right, I don't remember where I read that. Do you have a source?

 

[Falsedawn]

There's really no argument that slavery played a big part in the war. It's the notion that the north was fighting to free the slaves and Abraham Lincoln was some saint. He wasn't.

The north was indeed fighting to preserve the union.

The south however, was fighting to preserve the institution of slavery. As they were the instigators, they dictated what the war was about. It was about slavery, and they lost.

 

[aus101]

Other countries don't teach the civil war like that. They focus more on States rights than "Americans wanted to free the slaves!"

I mean the idea that somehow Americans just "had to free the Slaves" is pretty silly. Why was racism a problem until like the 70s (or now if you are a leftie) then? "I don't like the negroes but they shouldn't have to work for free". Sure..

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

I was speaking about the soldiers attitudes there.

I think it would be safe to assume that since the abolitionist movement was a growing political and social force in the North that it also made it's way to the soldiers, an example is John Brown.

http://www.history.com/topics/john-brown

 

[*Z*]

The north was indeed fighting to preserve the union.

The south however, was fighting to preserve the institution of slavery. As they were the instigators, they dictated what the war was about. It was about slavery, and they lost.

Why would they need to preserve something that wasn't even threatened? Who threatened to end slavery before the war? That's the part that gets me. I'm not trying to argue about it, I'm trying to learn more about it. I don't want to just accept something because that's what I'm told.

 

[Phr3121]

Before the start of the war the stance of the Republican party was to end slavery. They were fighting to make new states and territories non-slave.

"The election of Lincoln in 1860 opened a new era of Republican dominance based in the industrial North and agricultural Midwest. Most of the state Republican parties accepted the antislavery goal except Kentucky. In 1850 New Mexico and Utah territories would decide whether they would be slave or free upon applying for statehood. In 1854, the Kansas-Nebraska Act passed, dividing the region along the 40th parallel, with Kansas to the south and Nebraska to the north, and providing both territories the right to vote on whether to be slave or free. For all practical purposes the act effectively repealed the Missouri Compromise and the Compromise of 1850, which had attempted to regulate the spread of slavery."

 

[Phr3121]

You may be right, I don't remember where I read that. Do you have a source?

Source: https://www.theroot.com/how-many-slaves-landed-in-the-us-1790873989

 

[Yunes]

the Civil War was about money and the north taking away the methods in which the Southern elite had been making it. The South (and indirectly the whole country) was built on the backs of the enslaved and the south needed them more than the north did

 

[m52nickerson]

I was reading this already. Lincoln a republican became president in 1860 and did not have any goal to abolish slavery. His only goal was to keep the union intact. There was no republican outcry to free the slaves prior to the war.

It was a plank in the republican party agenda.

 

[m52nickerson]

Lol at wiki as a source for this argument.

Sorry, it does not fit your narrative?

 

[*Z*]

It was a plank in the republican party agenda.

That's not really checking out. Maybe after the war but not before.

 

[Phr3121]

Last I checked you white cucks pay tons of money to watch black men fuck your blonde white women and to watch black men athletically stomp all over your white athletes and to watch black men rap and act 'gangsta' and badass while your own people pretend and immitate it in the suburbs.

You americacucks are disgusting. When I go to the Mayberry anytime an athletic or 'explosive' black guy is brought up, a bunch of weird fucks bring up BBC, cucking, or IR porn, and gangbangs. A couple days ago some weirdo named something Cooldige was posting clips of girls that link to a pornsite centered around bbc. I only figured this out after the entire thread turned into a bbc worship fest. Fucking weirdo white americans and western whites but hey good for me!

Not sure what any of this shit means. Is this Zimbabwe English? Can someone translate this for me please?

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

Source: https://www.theroot.com/how-many-slaves-landed-in-the-us-1790873989

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_United_States_Census

The total population included 3,953,761 slaves, representing 12.6% of the total population

 

[XThe GreatestX]

the Civil War was about money and the north taking away the methods in which the Southern elite had been making it. The South (and indirectly the whole country) was built on the backs of the enslaved and the south needed them more than the north did

this.

To say the North fought with the south simply because they believed slavery was wrong is inaccurate.

 

[Phr3121]

the Civil War was about money and the north taking away the methods in which the Southern elite had been making it. The South (and indirectly the whole country) was built on the backs of the enslaved and the south needed them more than the north did

Oh, thank the Lord! Someone finally sees the truth and the light. Nice avatar. Why is the girl crying?

 

[Yunes]

Oh, thank the Lord! Someone finally sees the truth and the light. Nice avatar. Why is the girl crying?

rage cry

shes the little badass kid from the movie The Orphan

 

[Yunes]

I learned that civil war stuff in school...wonder if they still teach that