Chris Weidman vs. Prime Anderson Silva.

[Perrichet]

What else would a gap between losses be described as? You are a prime example of why stupid people shouldn't try to act smart.

And you’re a prime example of being too dumb to understand what I’m getting at.

So this gap, was Anderson in his prime until he lost?

 

[Perrichet]

Exactly.

When slow, lumbering Chris Weidman is landing on you, you KNOW your reflexes are shot and you're waaaaaaaay out of your physical prime.

Yeah because Anderson was so unhittable in his career

 

[Perrichet]

A 38yo man is at least half a decade past his physical prime.

Fact.

Anderson lost to cans in his physical prime.

Fact

 

[Perrichet]

clearly he peaked in his 30s. and clearly he declined in his 30s as well.

So where would you pinpoint exactly when he was in his prime and not since it’s so clear?

 

[Perrichet]

yeah. that 9 year gap. you know, most winning streaks end with a loss...

So when he lost he was no longer in his prime.

Convienient

 

[Oscaraps]

Yeah because Anderson was so unhittable in his career

Exactly, if fucking chael can put you down then yes you are most definitely hittable

 

[Seaside]

They already fought and Weidman KO’d him.

Or is Prime Anderson the one where he got tapped out by midget Japanese cans? Chris KO’s that version too

Please edit your post and include his decision loss to Luiz Azerado. Anderoíd also lost 6 years and 7 years into his career against Japanese journeyman/cans.

So beautiful hope it happens again before he retires.

People who followed Anderson's career saw him taking punches to the chin like they were nothing. That was gone by the time of the first Sonnen fight.

Excuse in 1st fight was injured rib. He destroy chael easy in 2nd fight after that anderoid fans say he still in prime. Anderson also tested positive for the the juice then fought most career before USADA so age less a factor.

 

[The Russian]

Who would have won?

We saw it twice caveman

 

[NoContest]

Excuse in 1st fight was injured rib. He destroy chael easy in 2nd fight after that anderoid fans say he still in prime. Anderson also tested positive for the the juice then fought most career before USADA so age less a factor.

None of that has anything to do with what I wrote.

 

[tenniswhiz]

Silva lost because of the wrestling threat from Weidman and Weidman's longer reach.

Silva looked like he was playing around in there.....but that is what it is supposed to look like when you're a counter striker trying to get your opponent out of position....

He was really keeping his hands low to better defend takedows while relying on his reflexes, footwork and distance to avoid strikes and set up counters.....

It worked for him tons of times against fighters with shorter reach than him....but this was the first time he faced an excellent grappler with longer reach....

There is no wrestling threat from Weidman after 5 minutes, because his cardio is shit.
He had no TD’s for Silva after the first round.

Many MW, including Silva, Vitor, Franklin, Hendo, Bisping, and Machida, in their primes, would light him up and finish him after he won his customary first round.
Just like Mousasi, Yoel, and Luke did.

Of course Weidman, if he had decent cardio, might be the best MW ever if not for his poor gas tank.

 

[kflo]

So when he lost he was no longer in his prime.

Convienient

When did fedors prime end?

 

[giusti825]

When did fedors prime end?

He was already past prime when he fought Arlovski. Even his coaches at the time were saying his speed was starting to go.

But he was still able to squeeze in the last few wins for his streak against top-ranked guys.

 

[giusti825]

True about Couture, but his style was much better geared for an older fighter. It's almost always the wrestlers who last the longest (Couture, Hendo, now Cormier). Fighters like Anderson, Machida and Cung Le need the speed and reflexes that come with youth.

This right here. Once a fighter with a speed-dependent style ages out of that speed, they will never look the same.

Fedor is actually a prime example for MMA and Jones a good example for boxing.

 

[SuperNerd]

Weidman. And the rematch.

 

[Claude]

Prime Anderson was outclassed by Takase and Chonan.

No version of A. Silva would beat Weidman. They are on entire different levels.

 

[Oscaraps]

When did fedors prime end?

That would be after the Sylvia fight

 

[FlyingDeathKick]

Lies. Chris was outstriking Anderson on the feet, beating him to the punch numerous times. The only success Anderson had was about 5 leg kicks

Check out fightmetric bud. Weidman landed like 8 strikes on the feet in the entire fight lol

 

[ortizgnp]

The truth is that The Chris is just a horrible matchup for Anderson. Pretty much Lord Chael 2.0 with power.

I pick The Chris to win everytime.

 

[giusti825]

On the feet he was and Weidman wasn't able to take him down after the first time. Silva landed at a much higher connect percentage and most of the strikes Weidman landed in the fight were on the ground.

I hate when this statistic is brought up in any context in mma.

This is NOT boxing. Making your opponent miss is NOT scored.

If fighter A throws 150 strikes in a round and lands 60 significant strikes and his opponent, fighter B throws 70 strikes in a round but lands 59 significant strikes, fighter B has a MUCH higher percentage, but loses the round by being outworked and out-landed.

You dont score for blocking and dodging, it only serves to prevent your opponent from scoring.

Its why TJ shoulld have gotten the decision against Cruz and why Condit should have gotten the decision against Lawler.

If you give up the aggressor role, you should have to outland your opponent to win, otherwise fighters will be playing tag in there and running away from eachother.

 

[Rum]

So where would you pinpoint exactly when he was in his prime and not since it’s so clear?

There's a very clear decline in Silva's physical ability from around the time he fought Cote and Leites.

Before his endurance started to wane he was able to put on a much higher volume and devastating buzzsaw pace and would fight off the front foot as much as the back foot, transitioning between range and clinch-fighting seamlessly, as well as possessing a much better chin, but as he moved out of his physical prime there's an obvious drop in volume and a change in style to being almost completely a counter fighter. The clear increase in clowning is a result of the same thing - a tactic to distract the opponent in order to slow the pace of the fight.

None of this is a secret to anyone who has followed his career and understands fighting with any depth.