Choy Li Fut VS Muay Thai

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  1. mjw1 Blue Belt

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    "Choy Li Fut is the most effective system that I've seen for fighting more than one person. [It] is one of the most difficult styles to attack and defend against. Choy Li Fut is the only style [of kung fu] that traveled to Thailand to fight the Thai boxers and hadn't lost."
     
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    I remember there was a post with a bunch of pictures from a Kung Fu vs Muay Thai event back in the 60's if I remember correctly, but all the Kung Fu guys got their ass kicked. Not sure what he's referring to though.
     
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    Don't know much about it other than it's a unification art of North/South Kung Fu. I question the Bruce Lee statement cause Bruce Lee didn't really talk in absolutes like that (and it only seems to be quoted out of one book and nothing else).

    Still, I checked it out in youtube and you see a lot of Choy Li Fut fighters in Sanda and Muay Thai fights. They ain't cleaning house, but the fact that the fighters are able to compete in the tournaments like that says something about the art.
     
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    Yeah not sure about it either but choy lay fut is one of the few kung fu styles where all the "families" of the system are well represented in kickboxing.
     
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    I remember they used to talk about the choy le fut and the wing chun guys battling for who was the better Hong Kong fighters. Choy Le Fut is such a big system with tons of forms, weapons, wooden dummies and wing chun very compact and much shorter in terms of forms, weapons, dummy.

    There were several kung fu vs muay thai fights in different periods and the muay thai guys won. But the kung fu guys were trying all the classical shit so they got stomped once they adopted the pseudo-muay thai modern sanda/sanshou they did alot better.
     
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    I'd say Choy Lee Fut (Cai Li Fo) wins over Muay Thai. It would be too elusive for them.

    It's also considered one of the 3 great martial arts of southern China: Hung Ga, Wing Chun, and Choy Lee Fut.
     
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    Yeah I've heard of the choy le fut vs wing chun roof top fights in hong kong as rivals before. However I was wondering about these fights bruce lee was talking about or perhaps there were a few kung fu guys who won and possibley were choy le fut who knows.
     
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    lol
     
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    No. Choy Li Fut is a good fight style, but it cannot beat Muay Thai in a pure fighting sense. For fancy name it wins hands down though.
     
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    I think the funny name comes from 3 people that the head dude learned from but not sure
     
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    Choy and Li are both the last names of people whose styles he learned (called Choy style and Li style, interestingly enough). Fut isn't actually someone's name but it's what the style was called.

    So basically it's a mixed martial art. I'm surprised we don't see in the UFC more. You could use the Choy techniques against long range stylists, Li once you got inside, and Fut on the ground.
     
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    the reoson you dont see it in the ufc is because the fighters adopt techniques from arts that are proven effective.
    boxing,muay thai,wrestling,bjj, they all compete in realistic combat as oppossed to many arts standind in a room punching air.
    choy li fut has not proven itself yet, hundreds of years to do so but still has not, why is that.
     
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    Congrats on not reading anything in this thread.
     
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    I think he was responding to Watsurgol's post..
     
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    I know he was.
    There are plenty of youtube videos of Choy Lee Fut fighters competing in kickboxing and Sanda tournaments, and holding their own. It's not some mystical ninjitsu or kung fu shit which has no practical application. Can you make it work at the highest of levels? I don't know. But saying it is unproven when this is one of the few Kung Fu styles that actively updates itself and actually will compete in kickboxing and sanshou/sanda tournaments is ignorant.
     
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    choy li fut shouldn't have a problem transitioning to mma. If we see a fighter from the style there the only problem is we will see the typical barrage of "That doesnt look like kung fu it looks like kick boxing herp derp"
     
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    Elusive? You say Choy Lee Fut man run away?
     
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    Elusive? Choy Li Fut, is knowing for standing it's ground and exchanging.
     
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  19. Payak Professional Fighter

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    my point is if you ask most people what they think about choy li fut, there answer will be choy what what.
    after so many years why is that, boxing and muay thai are well known, why is that.
     
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  20. LEGS MAHONEY genetically modified man shark

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    If you ask alot of people many things you get a dumb ass answer.This doesn't help your point.
     
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