International Canada arrested Huawei's CFO per an American warrant

What do you think international means in the context? Breaking national rules of a cowboy nation? Probably not.
Huawei sent American made products to Iran. That directly involves the US. It's not like Huawei sold Russian or Japanese or German products to Iran, in which case it would be non of America's business.
 
@NoDak Yeah communication tech ala 5G is going to be a massive market to let China win , especially how shady it has acted isn't in our national interest
In Japan they banned Huawei and ZTE from making deals with the Japanese govt. Due to security issues and hacking
 
Not sure the legal standing on this.

If she isn't a us citizen or the crime took place in the US.
i think it's because huaweii didn't stop dealings with iran
more ceo's to follow...
 
Since the request is coming from the US and not some Banana republic Canada wouldn't question the legitimacy of the charge, they would just make the arrest. The only issue they might have is if the person ran the risk of being given the death penalty in the US.
She has committed no crime in Canada. The crime she is accused of is violation of US imposed Iran sanction by a company she manages. Again, not a crime in the Canadian criminal code or most places in the world for that matter. The charge is clearly a political one, given the said crime is an extension of American pressure on Iran. Uncle Sam threw a hissy fit and Canada was dumb enough to serve that warrant, which makes us look like a client state. You want to have your spat with China? Go ahead, just don't involve us.

No foreign government went after the CEOs of major US tech companies when Snowden revealed they were all in bed with CIA/NSA. This is a serious escalation from US, and puts all of us at risk. Not what we need or want.
 
As a canadian, im not sure i agree with this.
She was in the US, but Uncle Sam didn't want to do the dirty work so they had us serve the arrest warrant when she was transferring flight in Canada. Whoever approved the arrest was a serious dumbass that needs to get slapped. Now we face retaliation from China with nothing gained in return.

Major diplomatic failure on our part playing minion to US.
 
She was in the US, but Uncle Sam didn't want to do the dirty work so they had us serve the arrest warrant when she was transferring flight in Canada. Whoever approved the arrest was a serious dumbass that needs to get slapped. Now we face retaliation from China with nothing gained in return.

Major diplomatic failure on our part playing minion to US.

I think she purposely avoided the US and thought she would be safe in Canada.

You're just mad because it will affect the market. So am I. I bought some Microsoft calls and am just chillin. Losing a lot of money. Microsoft is a good bet when down though. That stock has heart.

Who I would like to slap is this Navarro guy on Trump's trade team. He is a trade hawk. Every time he opens his mouth the market drops.
 
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She has committed no crime in Canada. The crime she is accused of is violation of US imposed Iran sanction by a company she manages. Again, not a crime in the Canadian criminal code or most places in the world for that matter. The charge is clearly a political one, given the said crime is an extension of American pressure on Iran. Uncle Sam threw a hissy fit and Canada was dumb enough to serve that warrant, which makes us look like a client state. You want to have your spat with China? Go ahead, just don't involve us.

No foreign government went after the CEOs of major US tech companies when Snowden revealed they were all in bed with CIA/NSA. This is a serious escalation from US, and puts all of us at risk. Not what we need or want.
She need not have committed a crime in Canada for the Canadian gov. to take her into custody. As long as there is an international arrest warrant or the Canadians have agreements with a nation on extradition and law enforcement, they are obliged to apprehend the person.

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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...o-the-us-work-a-look-at-what-may-be-next-for/

Federal and state prosecutors in the United States cannot simply request that their foreign counterparts arrest and turn over an individual. Such requests must be made through the U.S. Department of Justice’s Office of International Affairs (OIA).


The OIA maintains lines of communication with authorities in other countries and is responsible for taking the next steps leading to an arrest and an extradition.

Canada is one of the more than 100 countries with which the United States has extradition treaties, obligating it to co-operate with OIA requests. These treaties vary by the offences covered and some exclude a country’s own citizens or anyone facing capital punishment.

The long-standing U.S.-Canada treaty requires the offence for which extradition is sought to be a crime in both countries.

It is not clear if OIA has formally requested Ms. Meng’s extradition.


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Last sentence: No information yet whether an OIA was issued. And the OIA agreements require the person to have committed a crime in Canada, which may not be the case here. There may have been a Red Notice issues by Interpol , but that is not confirmed.
 
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She need not have committed a crime in Canada for the Canadian gov. to take her into custody. As long as there is an international arrest warrant or the Canadians have agreements with a nation on extradition and law enforcement, they are obliged to apprehend the person.

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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...o-the-us-work-a-look-at-what-may-be-next-for/

Federal and state prosecutors in the United States cannot simply request that their foreign counterparts arrest and turn over an individual. Such requests must be made through the U.S. Department of Justice’s Office of International Affairs (OIA).


The OIA maintains lines of communication with authorities in other countries and is responsible for taking the next steps leading to an arrest and an extradition.

Canada is one of the more than 100 countries with which the United States has extradition treaties, obligating it to co-operate with OIA requests. These treaties vary by the offences covered and some exclude a country’s own citizens or anyone facing capital punishment.

The long-standing U.S.-Canada treaty requires the offence for which extradition is sought to be a crime in both countries.

It is not clear if OIA has formally requested Ms. Meng’s extradition.


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Last sentence: No information yet whether an OIA was issued. And the OIA agreements require the person to have committed a crime in Canada, which may not be the case here. There may have been a Red Notice issues by Interpol , but that is not confirmed.
Officially she's being charged with bank fraud, not violating sanctions since that's not a crime in Canada. The argument is that she told the banks Skycom and Huawei were separate corporate entities when Skycom was a subsidiary of Huawei to bypass Iran sanctions. She can still argue political motivations to fight extradition, since Canada does not extradite for political crimes. Sanctions against Iran is as politically motivated as it gets.

Under the terms of the extradition treaty, the U.S. could request Meng's arrest in Canada if she was wanted in connection with conduct considered criminal in both Canada and the United States, and if the offence carries a jail sentence of a year or more. Once that threshold is met, the treaty compels Canada to act.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/meng-huawei-extradition-1.4937146
 
I think she purposely avoided the US and thought she would be safe in Canada.

You're just mad because it will affect the market. So am I. I bought some Microsoft calls and am just chillin. Losing a lot of money. Microsoft is a good bet when down though. That stock has heart.

Who I would like to slap is this Navarro guy on Trump's trade team. He is a trade hawk. Every time he opens his mouth the market drops.
No I am mad because we don't usually grab heads of tech giants as as bargaining chips. That warrant issued would have been unthinkable in a friendlier political climate. This is going beyond trade war and into geopolitical confrontation, putting Canada into the direct line of fire. You won't think US would react badly if China arrested Mark Zuckerberg for espionage on a foreign trip for sharing information with NSA?

This has bad omen written all over it. The publicity of it will make it hard for China to secretly back down as Xi will have to look tough. If he couldn't protect one of the most powerful corporate executive in China, his government's legitimacy would be seriously questioned. There is no trade war truce. Recession will almost be inevitable if 2 year and 10 year bond rate converge.
 
No I am mad because we don't usually grab heads of tech giants as as bargaining chips. That warrant issued would have been unthinkable in a friendlier political climate. This is going beyond trade war and into geopolitical confrontation, putting Canada into the direct line of fire. You won't think US would react badly if China arrested Mark Zuckerberg for espionage on a foreign trip for sharing information with NSA?

This has bad omen written all over it. The publicity of it will make it hard for China to secretly back down as Xi will have to look tough. If he couldn't protect one of the most powerful corporate executive in China, his government's legitimacy would be seriously questioned. There is no trade war truce. Recession will almost be inevitable if 2 year and 10 year bond rate converge.
A lot of people, not least Americans, would be secretly quite happy if the Chinese grabbed Zuck.
 
A lot of people, not least Americans, would be secretly quite happy if the Chinese grabbed Zuck.

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A lot of people, not least Americans, would be secretly quite happy if the Chinese grabbed Zuck.
Okay bad example

Try Bill Gates or Tim Cook. Would you not think Murica would get rather butthurt? It's unnecessary escalation over unnecessary sanctions. Mind you, Murica broke the JCPOA agreement that Iran was compliant with.
 
Okay bad example

Try Bill Gates or Tim Cook. Would you not think Murica would get rather butthurt? It's unnecessary escalation over unnecessary sanctions. Mind you, Murica broke the JCPOA agreement that Iran was compliant with.

Gordon Moore, and you may have a deal.
 
@NoDak Yeah communication tech ala 5G is going to be a massive market to let China win , especially how shady it has acted isn't in our national interest
In Japan they banned Huawei and ZTE from making deals with the Japanese govt. Due to security issues and hacking

ZTE and other Chinese telco companies historically has been involved in shady deals with governments of multiple countries they usually bribe ultra corrupt politicians that would be treasonous enough to sell out their country. This is an ongoing issue in my country as well the current government partnered with the Chinese to set up a broadband network that is deemed by some analyst as a very risky deal.
 
No I am mad because we don't usually grab heads of tech giants as as bargaining chips. That warrant issued would have been unthinkable in a friendlier political climate. This is going beyond trade war and into geopolitical confrontation, putting Canada into the direct line of fire. You won't think US would react badly if China arrested Mark Zuckerberg for espionage on a foreign trip for sharing information with NSA?

This has bad omen written all over it. The publicity of it will make it hard for China to secretly back down as Xi will have to look tough. If he couldn't protect one of the most powerful corporate executive in China, his government's legitimacy would be seriously questioned. There is no trade war truce. Recession will almost be inevitable if 2 year and 10 year bond rate converge.


That is what he gets for challenging America and the rest of the world. And that is actually the plan here by the USA is to make China look week and see how for the Chinees are willing to retaliate.
 
That is what he gets for challenging America and the rest of the world. And that is actually the plan here by the USA is to make China look week and see how for the Chinees are willing to retaliate.
Do you believe that was actually planned? It happened at an awkward moment because Trump just agreed to a new negotiating period to try to work things out before hiking tariffs. It makes Trump look even less of an honest party. I wonder if the right is going to seize this as proof that the deep state is working to sabotage him.
 
No I am mad because we don't usually grab heads of tech giants as as bargaining chips. That warrant issued would have been unthinkable in a friendlier political climate. This is going beyond trade war and into geopolitical confrontation, putting Canada into the direct line of fire. You won't think US would react badly if China arrested Mark Zuckerberg for espionage on a foreign trip for sharing information with NSA?

This has bad omen written all over it. The publicity of it will make it hard for China to secretly back down as Xi will have to look tough. If he couldn't protect one of the most powerful corporate executive in China, his government's legitimacy would be seriously questioned. There is no trade war truce. Recession will almost be inevitable if 2 year and 10 year bond rate converge.

The Xi looking tough era has passed. He has toned it down and the state media has been ordered not to say things to inflame Trump. Chinese nationalism has taken a major hit. They realized they were a paper tiger and are mad about it. lol. They were lied to. That they can compete with us.

China is not going the route of escalation. I think Trump really has them pinned down here. I have really no opinion on the case but China aint doing shit. What are they gonna do? All the threats are coming from Trump. lol. China is just sitting there and Trump is threatening them. He is going off on China on a daily basis.

And she is a CFO. Nobody cares about them. Nobody can name the CFO of any company. lol.
 
That is what he gets for challenging America and the rest of the world. And that is actually the plan here by the USA is to make China look week and see how for the Chinees are willing to retaliate.
There is nothing written is stone that US is the only permitted superpower in the world. In fact, American dominance is a relatively recent event given the age of history. Let's not aft like this is some good vs evil scenario. It's two sides competing for dominance, and Canada should not be involved.
 
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