Can you Be a Capitalist Christian?

[WaylonMercy5150]

2 Thessalonians 3:10
For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.

Got ya sherbro...It's okay, I'm a professional. I know this stuff like the back of my hand.

I'm done

 

[Johnny Mac]

I'm done

We are here to find the truth. It's all good man.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Yeah, private control of trade and industry wouldn't be any more or less appealing to jebus than if the state controlled everything. The distribution aspect towards the incapables is where sky wizards would be concerned -- but that applies to any economic system.

 

[Slick_36]

You can be a capitalist Christian, but protecting unfettered capitalism is another story. Capitalism is a race to who can amass enough wealth to control the laws, like TS mentioned with the oligarchy. That's where we're at and it's not Christian at all. Everything around is designed to be wasted quickly so that we are back for more. It's become a machine driven by a lot of evil factors to produce more wealth for the rich. Jesus may not have taught us to change the laws to give, but he taught us to live our lives without greed and to be generous. I don't think Jesus would fight against some socialist legislation, nor would he fight in favor of capitalism.

 

[hillelslovak87]

Socialism tries to bring Utopia to Earth. The problem with trying to reign in heaven in this world is you also have to bring in HELL for those that don't want your heaven.

There is nothing in the Bible promoting socialism. Period.
Socialism is not charity. It is a tax collector taking your money at gunpoint.
Charity is voluntary giving of money.

I know you are just a troll and kind of miserable you ain't doing shit on a Friday night. My condolences. Later.

Is the tax man taking your money by gunpoint not the situation Americans are in today?

2 Thessalonians 3:10
For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.

Got ya sherbro...It's okay, I'm a professional. I know this stuff like the back of my hand.

I think in the case of that passage, context matters. The Jews were largely subsistence farmers, and other such jobs. During the time of the book in which this passage appears, many Jews had abandoned their farms, dwellings, etc, and apparently had a problem not working, but gossiping about the return of Jesus, which they believed would happen within their lifetimes, as he said (this is of course, if you were a Jew who happened to believe in Jesus being the messiah).

To me, it seems a decent enough command. Jesus said not even he knew when the end would come, so gossiping, lacking your work ethic, and not living pious lives was to be avoided.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

It does seem to me that an economic system that relies on and encourages consumption is going to have some tension with a religion that preaches restraining one's consumption and humility.

I think capitalism and socialism are both compatible with Christianity, but both have tensions no doubt. People like to use Christianity for political leverage, especially in the War Room, but in most major ways Christianity is stubbornly apolitical. In particular the writings of the New Testament do not try to establish a society or government, except in the narrow sense of the church. A decent rule of thumb is that almost anytime a modern American of almost any political stripe quotes the Bible to push a political debate in whatever direction, they are full of shit.

I'd argue this is a major distinction between Christianity and Islam, which according to my limited knowledge promotes an ideal social organization (sharia law, etc).

 

[Islam Imamate]

I think capitalism and socialism are both compatible with Christianity, but both have tensions no doubt. People like to use Christianity for political leverage, especially in the War Room, but in most major ways Christianity is stubbornly apolitical. In particular the writings of the New Testament do not try to establish a society or government, except in the narrow sense of the church. A decent rule of thumb is that almost anytime a modern American of almost any political stripe quotes the Bible to push a political debate in whatever direction, they are full of shit.

I'd argue this is a major distinction between Christianity and Islam, which according to my limited knowledge promotes an ideal social organization (sharia law, etc).

Yeah I'm weary of saying that x or y religion is incompatible with a and b societies because in practice people and their religions are very flexible and can adapt. But that doesn't meant there isn't tension during that adaptation.

 

[Harry Flashman]

No. Absolutely not.

 

[spin]

Of course. David, Solomon, all the kings were also Christians.

Allegedly.

 

[Fawlty]

Two thousand year old advice about finances is probably not good advice.

 

[ShinkanPo]

I think capitalism and socialism are both compatible with Christianity, but both have tensions no doubt. People like to use Christianity for political leverage, especially in the War Room, but in most major ways Christianity is stubbornly apolitical. In particular the writings of the New Testament do not try to establish a society or government, except in the narrow sense of the church. A decent rule of thumb is that almost anytime a modern American of almost any political stripe quotes the Bible to push a political debate in whatever direction, they are full of shit.

I'd argue this is a major distinction between Christianity and Islam, which according to my limited knowledge promotes an ideal social organization (sharia law, etc).

Islam/Sharia is so political that there is some debate that some ancient tribes of Manila used Islamic laws for business,ecconomics,social structures,judiciary and penal system while not really being Muslims.

Meaning to say those tribes dont believe in the Islamic spirituality they are still pagans worshiping big rocks and mountain men spirits.

It also the reason why some orthodox Islamic scholars dont rely on evidences of Muslim style graveyards as a basis for dating the exact date Islam was introduced in the Archipelago.

Islamic History states that the official start of Islam in the Islands was in 1380 when Karim Al Makhdum reach the Sulo Island, even thoug there are evidence of Islamic practices that date backs to the 1250s