Can we go ahead and accept that the UFC is officially done treating MMA as a sport?

[Kung Fu bb]

It's not a sport to WME anymore. It's purely entertainment. The UFC is going in the direction of pro wrestling. Helwani has confirmed what we are all expecting, Nate vs Woodley is in the works. Yes, I know this crap has been going on for a while, but I feel this is the straw that has broken the camel's back. Yes, I get it, it's a business first and foremost, but come on. The "money" fights aren't even fights fans want to see anymore. It's about their pocket only. Who the fuck has been sitting around with their fingers crossed hoping for Nate Diaz vs Tyron Woodley? A fringe top ten LW who is coming off a loss, hasn't fought in a year and notoriously struggles against wrestlers ......against Woodley? For a title shot?! WTF? I won't even be surprised if they start fixing fights at this point, like they did in Pride.

And it's obvious this is just a plot to try and get McGregor a run at the WW belt. So good luck with seeing McGregor fight Ferguson or defend his belt at all. Atleast not for a while. And he will definitely be holding onto it. They won't strip him. If you're a contender in the UFC who has been working your ass off for the prize, or perhaps rooting for a contender who has been working their way up....good luck because the circus will always take priority.

Exactly. Great thread, TS.

Just look at the Conor 2 division champ BS for example: He was the only one ever allowed to do it.
Every champion in the past (dominant ones, that had defended their belt multiple times) were told they would have to vacate their belt before moving up to challenge for another belt, like Dana said about Aldo when the fight with Pettis was in the talks. Now think how many fighters would´ve been a 2 division champ if they never had to defend their 1st belt even once, like Conor? Just another example of how shitty the UFCircus is becoming.


http://www.mmaweekly.com/jose-aldo-...enge-anthony-pettis-for-ufc-lightweight-title

“He’ll vacate the title, move up to 155, and fight for the title,” White said of Aldo. “If he doesn’t win the title at 155, he can go back and challenge for the 145-pound title if he wanted to do that, or if he wins the 155-pound title and two other guys would fight for the 145-pound title.”

 

[Substance Abuse]

And the irony is UFC shills used to rage on Pride for 'freak shows'. Coker is our last hope. Atleast with tournies, the winner moves on, not some guy that loses to a featherweight and gets the welterweight title.

Coker is in love with a ramp and freak show fights, some big screen and washed up dudes. It's more of a joke over there than you think it is.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

Coker is in love with a ramp and freak show fights, some big screen and washed up dudes. It's more of a joke over there than you think it is.

That is because Viacom is interested in the ratings business. Coker has been scooping up every prospect, signing top UFC fighters and putting on great ideas like one night tourneys. If the people tuned in more for Lima vs Larkin more than Kimbo vs Ken, then he would not put on the freakshows. Still, Coker still has martial arts integrity and that is how he is able to get Mir Fedor done in a month while Dana could not do it in two decades.

 

[NotoriousMillions]

It's not a sport to WME anymore. It's purely entertainment. The UFC is going in the direction of pro wrestling. Helwani has confirmed what we are all expecting, Nate vs Woodley is in the works. Yes, I know this crap has been going on for a while, but I feel this is the straw that has broken the camel's back. Yes, I get it, it's a business first and foremost, but come on. The "money" fights aren't even fights fans want to see anymore. It's about their pocket only. Who the fuck has been sitting around with their fingers crossed hoping for Nate Diaz vs Tyron Woodley? A fringe top ten LW who is coming off a loss, hasn't fought in a year and notoriously struggles against wrestlers ......against Woodley? For a title shot?! WTF? I won't even be surprised if they start fixing fights at this point, like they did in Pride.

And it's obvious this is just a plot to try and get McGregor a run at the WW belt. So good luck with seeing McGregor fight Ferguson or defend his belt at all. Atleast not for a while. And he will definitely be holding onto it. They won't strip him. If you're a contender in the UFC who has been working your ass off for the prize, or perhaps rooting for a contender who has been working their way up....good luck because the circus will always take priority.

Tyrone has cleaned out the division. RDA and Lawler are fighting for the #1 spot. There are some nice prospects, but the only one you could throw a title shot at right now is Covington and lets be honest...you think he's wrestlefucking and beating Woodley? Nate has a much better shot than Colby.

 

[50 - 0]

Tyrone has cleaned out the division. RDA and Lawler are fighting for the #1 spot. There are some nice prospects, but the only one you could throw a title shot at right now is Covington and lets be honest...you think he's wrestlefucking and beating Woodley? Nate has a much better shot than Colby.

kill yourself

 

[TripTictonic]

The UFC just makes the fights they think people will pay to see, as every prize fighting promotion has done since the dawn of time.

If you don't want Conor to have so much power, stop streaming your favorite fighter's cards. If you want to improve fighter pay, stop streaming your favorite fighter's cards.

What Ronda and Conor have in common is that their fans aren't bums.

What the fuck are you even talking about?

 

[NotoriousMillions]

kill yourself

Can't deal with reality. No wonder you stay in your basement!

 

[50 - 0]

Can't deal with reality. No wonder you stay in your basement!

I honestly feel bad that you have mental illness

 

[Ceez]

shut up crybaby

it's been this way for years

eww edgy, what're ya 13?

Can you follow directions?

If so watch this gif and do exactly as it shows




We will thank you after the deed is done

 

[MiroHa]

Really? Give me all the examples.

1-1 Brock Lesnar getting a title shot
Couture vs. Toney

 

[50 - 0]

The UFC just makes the fights they think people will pay to see, as every prize fighting promotion has done since the dawn of time.

If you don't want Conor to have so much power, stop streaming your favorite fighter's cards. If you want to improve fighter pay, stop streaming your favorite fighter's cards.

What Ronda and Conor have in common is that their fans aren't bums.

Casuals determine PPV sells.

Most ronda and conor fans are casuals. a hardcore most likely streams 99% of events

 

[TripTictonic]

Tyrone has cleaned out the division. RDA and Lawler are fighting for the #1 spot. There are some nice prospects, but the only one you could throw a title shot at right now is Covington and lets be honest...you think he's wrestlefucking and beating Woodley? Nate has a much better shot than Colby.

I was going to take the time to write a thought out reply, but fuck it.

 

[TripTictonic]

1-1 Brock Lesnar getting a title shot
Couture vs. Toney

And Brock ended up being the best HW in a weak division for a while. So what? Is Nate the best WW in the world? Is he even close? Did Brock sit out and refuse to fight for a year. None of that even comes close.

 

[Kinku]

And the irony is UFC shills used to rage on Pride for 'freak shows'. Coker is our last hope. Atleast with tournies, the winner moves on, not some guy that loses to a featherweight and gets the welterweight title.

Coker is not our last hope, short term memory? Dada5000 vs kimbo. Dada getting KO by heart attack

 

[Cheapshart]

Casuals determine PPV sells.

Most ronda and conor fans are casuals. a hardcore most likely streams 99% of events

Totally agree. Which is why the UFC doesn't care what hardcore fans want.

 

[TIMELESS TRUTH]

Anyone with half a brain did this ages ago.

Not sure what the fuck took some of you others so long. It was blatantly evident years ago.

It began when the UFC decided to market WMMA with their main product. One year before Ronda first fought in the ufc, Dana said there would never be females fighting in the octagon.

Then Ronda beats Miesha "worldbeater" Tate and we're supposed to buy that product forever...

 

[MiroHa]

And Brock ended up being the best HW in a weak division for a while. So what? Is Nate the best WW in the world? Is he even close? Did Brock sit out and refuse to fight for a year. None of that even comes close.

1-1

 

[Kobra420]

Conor's going to defend his belt against Tony and bring some legitimacy back into the sport.

You have gone Loonie Tunes man.....

 

[RawHawg]

You mean to tell me Rogan was not being sincere when he screamed about every single fight "this is one of the greatest fights of all time!!!" ????

 

[NotoriousMillions]

I was going to take the time to write a thought out reply, but fuck it.

Because you'd realize you'd be wrong. Good boy.