Can we compare neo-nazis/KKK to ISIS and Al Qaeda? | Page 2

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  1. Bloodworth Silver Belt

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    But what portion of these white gangs currently fill the prison system.

    Presently the new kkk and nazis are Isis and radical Islam

    Huge difference, violence was much more prevalent 1,000 years ago.

    No modern human would act like that today. The modern day kkk like isis are literally a 1,000 years behind mentally.
     
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    Exactly. No comparison. In ny it's clear who the modern day kkk are. They wear their colors open, fly their flags open, graffiti open, tatooes weared proudly.
    Have gang signs
     
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    If it weren't for Antifa gathering militantly everywhere, I highly doubt the car attack would have happened. I'm not justifying it, but let's play percentages and numbers here.
     
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    For Muslims, Islam is like a master race but anybody can join. Both ideologies don't care about individuals' rights outside of their master race.
    Right now, globally, Islam is more dangerous but that would change if we had as many organized National Socialist groups.
    Of course, Islam clearly is more accepted than white supremacy or National Socialism, I mean there are still people who believe Islamic theology is not an inherently evil ideology, they might even be a majority in the US.
     
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    You truly believe Overpressure that regardless of far right of far left the same level of evil would be practised if the opportunity arises?

    I personally believe humans are evil they just need the right people around them to act out their hate.
     
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    I truly believe that if the white right came to power it would result in a disaster like Nazi Germany
     
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    There is no doubt that if no one else was there, that nothing would have happened. I'm no fan of how Antifa and their tactics, but this man still had no right to do such a thing. I'm disappointed in the police effort to keep peace.
     
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    Are you as concerned about the communist left? Because I feel it ends about the same as the fascist right.
     
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    Why only the white right? Both extreme ends of the political ladder demonstrate 0 tolerance for the views of the other side. Is it that far of a stretch to imagine a disturbing cruel life under any form of extreme political ideology?
     
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    Now this is pod racing!!!
    Yes, out of the backwaters, and out of the hollers, comes the revolution. An opioid fueled army of shit kickin commandos, ready to purify the Aryan race durrr
     
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    I don't see the left having any power.
    Any.
     
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    Most of the social political changes have come the left. Gay marriage, women in active combat roles, bathroom bills for transgender, ACA. That shows me they have had a lot of power.
     
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    While true, your comparison is narrowed down to how much violence they are currently committing.

    There are certainly comparisons with nazism and islamic extremism. Both are fundamentalistic, inclusive ideologies with hate at its core. If nazism grows again i don't think anyone would be at all surprised to see violence commited against those that don't subscribe to their ideology.

    And I don't think it's wise to fight against one form of extremism by supporting another, which is what is happening right now in a number of countries.
     
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    It's ugly all around, but no one should be blowing this out of proportion either.

    In the meantime George Soros funded antifa has an army at the ready to shut down any event, free speech and whatever else at his whim. That's a problem. The KKK/White Supremecist group is embarrassing but by comparison, I see much more open calls for violence and literal death threats against law enforcement and whites by BLM tweeters and at their rallies, road closures etc. I mean how many deaths and how much destruction of property and loss of income has occured from BLM let alone the fear and uncertainty it's generated. I also see a direct correlation between the growth of Islam in the west and the rise of violence.
     
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    I don't think developed nations have to worry about Nazism growing in popularity at this point.

    Well, right up until we start highlighting the people who Nazis want to paint as bad guys actually being the bad guys.

    When people show up to Nazi marches that would have otherwise been ignored, and create violent situations, potential Nazi recruits can be swayed by that sort of shit. "Oh, they really are fighting against violent tyranny". As absurd as that sounds to most rational human beings, it's exactly how Neo-Nazi recruitment works. Nazis have to paint themselves as an oppressed people trying to defend their homeland, and when people show up to fight them, their recruitment video basically films itself.
     
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    wow. pretty low standard for "proving" stuff.
     
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    I completely agree about George Soros. The way he has been allowed to fund the protest is not the way protest should be allowed to happen. BLM could have been something important that I could of got behind. The men BLM chose as it martyrs drove a divide in this country. These weren't all clear cases of police out of control, but instead were used to drive a wage in a racial wound that had been healing.

    Then all of the Antifa people being used in the lead up to the election to violently attack and silent people who had different views then the far left. This imo has all been used to try and get a reaction like we saw today from the far right.

    It to seems like there are a lot of strings attached to the far left and right being pulled by the same people. I think yesterday was a good day for the puppet masters and a sad one for the American people.
     
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    Yeah I agree. Nazis should be mocked, ignored, or if people want to confront them (which is completely understandable) then they should do so with debate. Engaging in violence does more harm than good.

    Developed countries do have to worry about the rise of the far right. You don't have to look very far to see far right parties gaining a lot of momentum in Europe. I'm certainly not suggesting everyone on the far right is a nazi, but by giving rise to the far right people simply fighting one form of extremism by endorsing another.
     
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    YouTube search blacks against Democrats and you'll see tons of videos of blacks talking about how bad the Democratic party has been for the black community. One of the things it has fostered is a spoiled, entitled and lazy culture that's led to poverty, violence, joblessness, imprisonment, fatherless children etc ad nausea. But also empty promises is the norm with Democrats.

    Give me a Ben Carson or Charles Sowell or Sherrif Clarke or millions of other respectable, non-whining, unspoiled blacks over the spiteful, hateful ones like Louis Farakhan, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and many others who can do nothing but stir up controversy and racial divide many decades past when affirmative action should have been put to bed.
     
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    There is no doubt in my mind that for years the Democrats have used welfare money to keep the black vote. Instead of keeping high paying factory jobs, and investing money to inner city neighborhoods. We give them a welfare check.

    After we have them hooked we stir up the poor whites and blame the problems on the blacks being on welfare and the Hispanics for taking their jobs. So now the whites focus on those they feel are socially beneath them and the minorities get to feel like they would be so much better off if they could only reach the sweet life of the middle class.

    Now we bring on the social strife and we now have the whites who feel its everyone against them flocking to build a wall and cut welfare against their own best interests. Want all the mega corporation s to have tax cuts and calling for more trickle down economics that will only make the rich richer and kill off what's left of the middle class. As long as the have minorities to look down on its ok.

    Que the far left and now the lgbtq community is attacking their religion. Now the rise of BLM. Have the media blast daily about how its the white mans fault. How bad white men are. Young white men start pushing farther right attack what they feel is their history. First the confederate flag now all the confederate monuments. Next thing you know they are siding with the Nazis and KKK.

    Add in a president who feeds into the nationalist movement and you end up with far right terrorist attacks.

    Now we need to allow the rich men we vote into office tell us how dangerous the far right is all day long. When in fact they are the one wanting us to fight with one another so the can continue to take our right away from us. Look what they already did with the patriot act.......
     
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